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06-03-2020, 12:20 AM | #167 |
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I have had a kindle since 2008. Most all my ebooks are from the amazon store. Too complicated to try to fit all those books I already own onto a different device with a different format. I like being on wifi and getting what I want, when I want.
Plus, main reason, as far as I know, there were no page buttons on Kobo in early years. No page buttons, no dice. I also never heard of a Kobo until many years into my e-reading experience. Do Kobo's have easy sync across all devices, easy dictionary, wikipedia? I have no clue. I didn't even know they were available in my country of the longest time. I think they are just recently available in the US without having to order from some overseas company. Also, amazon customer service. I also noticed that over the years reading this forum, yes I read other devices forums, I notice there seems to be a lot of "fiddling" with kobos. Putting things on them. I don't jailthingie, whatever that means my kindles. I want to buy device, open device, load a book and start reading. I just remember a a lot of posts about fiddling with software stuff with kobo's. Not my thing. If it doesn't work as is out of the box, it is not for me. Maybe if I had started with a kobo I would have all kobo books now. Probably not though. I would have found a kindle that has page turn buttons later and never looked back. Plus, I was a amazon user long before kindle. They are just more accessable. Still the only reason I have ever heard of Kobo's is because of this forum. Otherwise I would still not know they existed. Not sure why this obsession with OP to turn kindle users onto Kobo. Use whatever works for you and what offers the things you must have. Or whatever you always used. Why change something that works. |
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Easy sync across devices? If you mean things like reading position for books purchased from Kobo and synced to the ereader? Yes. Sideloaded books? Kobo gets time spent reading and page turns. Canadian privacy regulations make sending other information difficult. Dictionary? Yes, though not the greatest but then I seldom use a dictionary. Wikipedia? There used to be a search Wikipedia but it was removed. I suspect due to lack on interest. Quote:
Jailbreak? An attempt to make your Kindle an open device the way a Kobo is out of the box. Something which Amazon has worked hard to make impossible. As for fiddling with software? My Forma does not get patched and it is my main reader. My Clara HD does get patched and played with. We all have our ideas of fun. Quote:
As for whether Kobo or Amazon makes a better ereader, I had to love one review by an American of the Kobo Aura One where he compared it to the original Oasis (both released in 2016). Evidently he loved the typography, he loved the screen size with a 7.8" screen compared to a 6" screen (both 300 PPI). Variable colour backlighting. CBR/CBZ support out of the box (I suspect the reviewer was a closet comic book reader). IPX waterproofing. But it weighed more than the Oasis 1 without the battery/cover, 230g vs 131g so he had to drop it to 3 stars out of 5. Of course, adding the cover to the Oasis 1 brought it's weight up to 238g but that didn't matter since it was a Kindle. Quote:
OTOH, why change something that works? Looking back, I guess we really didn't need ereaders when we had physical books that we actually owned. We didn't need horseless carriages when we had horses. Who needed vacuum cleaners, washing machines, dryers, etc. when we had servants to take care of that work. Who needs HD TV when we could watch our favourites on TVs. All thing considered, welcome to the 21st century where change is a way of life. Last edited by DNSB; 06-03-2020 at 01:16 AM. |
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06-03-2020, 01:17 AM | #169 | |
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Another example of something that might be a reason to switch is the existence of devices not available in Kindle. As fas as I know, for example, Amazon has no 8-inch reader, while Kobo does - with buttons. If a Kindle user wanted a bigger screen, a switch to Kobo would be the answer. As to the other questions you asked - easy sync across devices, "just works out of the box" etc, the answer for Kobos is "yes" Any Kobo works as is out of the box, exactly as a Kindle does. Turn it on, buy a book, read. All the "fiddling about with software stuff" is optional, for hobbyists and/or people who want to modify part of the experience. Not one of the modifications is necessary. My wife also switched from Kindle to Kobo when he found out about the library function, and has never patched either of her Kobo devices - she's also used the library borrowing function more than I have. Parts of your post seem contradictory. You claim at one point not to have heard of Kobos until many years into your reading experience, yet say that as far as you know there were no buttons on Kobos in the early years, and give the absence of buttons as a dealbreaker. Yet these buttonless Kobos, if they existed, did so before you were aware of Kobo, so they could not have been a reason for you not to choose them. I'm not trying to evangelise for Kobo, simply explaining why some make the switch, and also refuting, again, a very common misconception among some Kindle users - especially those who use these forums. The assumption seems to be that because you CAN tinker a lot with Kobos, you MUST, to make them usable. This is simply not true. Last edited by Uncle Robin; 06-03-2020 at 01:20 AM. |
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06-03-2020, 02:04 AM | #170 |
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06-03-2020, 10:53 AM | #171 |
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06-03-2020, 12:27 PM | #172 |
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I’ve had tea at the Empress, but I have to nitpick and say that high tea isn’t the afternoon repast with fancy cakes and cucumber sandwiches, but is essentially supper, i.e., the evening meal when dinner is midday.
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06-03-2020, 02:58 PM | #173 |
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he reason I started this thread is because I've read a lot of posts of Kindle owners wanting to jailbreak so they could have features that Kobo already has. If these features are that important, go for a Kobo that already have what you want. For example, what seems to be a big deal is having the eBook cover be the sleep image. Kobo already does this out of the box.
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06-03-2020, 06:44 PM | #174 | |
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In my opinion, both are excellent readers (yes, I still use my Kindles too). But then I sideload all my books. For someone who relies on direct syncing with Amazon, a Kindle may well seem an easier and better choice. |
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06-04-2020, 06:19 AM | #175 | |
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I know for some, the Kindle may be a better choice. But for those on MR who complain about features Kindle doesn't have and Kobo does, why do you not have a Kobo? |
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06-04-2020, 07:28 AM | #176 |
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Because neither Kindle nor Kobo have all the features that everyone wants. One can want a custom screensaver whilst still having easy access to KU with the author getting paid, whispersync, Amazon customer service and various other Amazon features. People usually don't make their purchasing decisions on the basis of one feature but on the basis of a balance of features. Those for whom a custom screensaver is the pre-eminent feature may well choose a Kobo. For the rest it is a balance as to what they perceive best suits their needs.
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06-04-2020, 07:55 AM | #177 | |
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seriously: when I bought my first ereader, a Paperwhite 3, I chose a Kindle because it simply was the most widespread used. I was a novice so I thought that it could be easier to find help respect than other ereder. When I bought the KA1 the only thing I was really interested was the larger screen. All the nice things about Kobo, and also some that I like least, I discovered later. Neither device is my ideal ereder but that chimera does not exist. And if somebody has a Kindle may he can't afford the expense for buying another ereder also if there are some things he would change in his Kindle. Or simply may be that someone don't want to become a device collector. Last edited by ps67; 06-04-2020 at 07:58 AM. |
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06-04-2020, 10:38 AM | #178 |
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06-05-2020, 08:00 AM | #179 |
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Pretty simple. I purchase books from amazon so I use a kindle. I've used Kobos -- Owned a Clara and a Forma. Enjoyed Koreader. Dislike Kobo store pricing. Dislike how the very specific genre of books I read are not available on Kobo store due to those authors agreements with Amazon. Kindle works for me. I am not opposed to Kobo and think they make great devices. I don't have to de-DRM anything as it stands right now and no, I got tired of backing up all my books in fear of amazon owning my purchased titles. It's just not that big of a deal.
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06-05-2020, 08:22 AM | #180 |
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One thing I do have a complaint about is the PW3 and Amazon. I've read about some problems with 5.12.4. But Amazon is not releasing 5.12.5 for the PW3.
Kobo is still supporting most Readers with the same new firmware. Why can't Amazon do this? |
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