What would you like in the next gen Cybook (Gen4) - Page 2

Prospect · 01-25-2008, 09:53 AM

Does anybody have an idea of how many units of the Gen3 that is currently sold? Is it like 100 or 10 000?

mbovenka · 01-25-2008, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Prospect

Does anybody have an idea of how many units of the Gen3 that is currently sold? Is it like 100 or 10 000?

Somewhere around 10.000. I recently saw an order number in the high 9000s mentioned on this forum.

Prospect · 01-25-2008, 10:31 AM

That might be an indication but we do not now how that the order numbers are determinated and it is likely that this number include orders for other items, such as Cybook gen1 or batteries.

tribble · 01-25-2008, 10:42 AM

My estimated guess would be around a few thousand.

HarryT · 01-25-2008, 12:24 PM

Gen3 orders seemed to start at about 1500 or so (mine was one of the first orders and was 16-something). If they are at 10000 now, that probably indicates that they've had about 8000-ish orders.

Prospect · 01-25-2008, 12:58 PM

Or even more since some orders would consist of more than one device

yvanleterrible · 01-25-2008, 01:04 PM

I remember Bookeen at first wanting to be in business selling readers to corporations. I wonder what came of that...

Barcey · 03-16-2008, 10:29 PM

One thing I'd like to see is an optional remote for page turns. I find that I read a fair bit with a book chair. I tried a book chair with paper books but found it more of a bother fussing with page turns. It works well with the ebook except reaching to turn pages. I would feel better knowing that I could just buy another remote if it broke too. Waterproof so I can read while doing the dishes or with my rubber ducky in the tub.

binzer · 03-16-2008, 10:35 PM

I REALLY hope that Bookeen doesn't come out with a Gen4 soon, simply because I haven't even gotten my Cybook in the mail yet and I'm not too eager for it to be out of date :P

I would LOVE some new firmware however

C'moooon folders!

Anyways, all the suggestions made so far are good ones, but navigation > wi-fi imo. For me it's all about the reading experience, since that's what I'll spend most of my time doing. I don't really care if it takes me an extra few minutes to download books (although I guess wi-fi is nice for news).

Walk Broad · 05-20-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

How much would you be willing to pay for such a unit? Virtually all the cost of an eInk device is in the screen; for the foreseeable future such a device would cost well over $1000; probably over $2000. Would you pay that?

Nope.

I still think the devices are too pricey although a Cybook (or other reader) isn't out of the realm of possibility.

Anything over $400 US is way too much, IMHO. And I don't want an e-reader to replace my laptop/desktop computer.

Read books, painless acquisition of new material and take notes, that would be my perfect e-reading device. I don't need to surf the internet or write e-mails from the thing, just read good books as comfortably as possible.

And take notes if need be on what I'm reading.

If the Gen4 CyBook changed nothing but included the new Wacom input at the same price, that'd be perfect for me.

Ramen · 05-20-2008, 04:05 PM

Given the news item, I thought I'd add my wishes as well.

Note: I do not own a Cybook (mainly for monitary reasons[€->SFr + shipping])

What I'd like to see in any such a device, is:

COM port/RS-232 as has been mentioned on the previous page. There are several ways to make this discrete and without using too much space. It's a developer interface, so you can hide it just about anywhere or require external adapters, leaving just a tiny connector on the actual device (under a hood for instance or on the back-side, not the edge). Even custom interfaces are fine if proper documentation and usability is ensured.
Full (and usable) documentation of the hardware. Examples are welcome.
Linux sources with some documentation.
Backup BIOS (such as every modern mainboard has) to help you recover in case of a bad flash.

The above is meant to make developing for the Cybook Gen 4 as easy as possible. Typical excuses are "trade secrets" and the like but those are usually bullshit excuses (ref: Adaptec and VIA).
Without proper developer support, your stuck with current problems (PDF support, bugs, etc).

igorsk · 05-21-2008, 09:35 AM

Bookeen doesn't offer Linux sources (and, apprently, refuses to provide them even when asked) and they have only a single copy of bootloader and root fs in the flash, making the device brickable with a bad update.
Notably, both Sony and Amazon offer full Linux sources with all necessary drivers. Further, both Reader and Kindle do have backup bootloader and root filesystem which are activated in case of problems with the main ones. Granted, they don't offer documentation on the ways to get inside the device, but that's been figured out (they both have a serial port with shell running).

Ramen · 05-21-2008, 10:28 AM

Nice blog and what we'd need for the Cybook.

OT: Same Igor as with unichrome?

tompe · 05-21-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by igorsk

Bookeen doesn't offer Linux sources (and, apprently, refuses to provide them even when asked) and they have only a single copy of bootloader and root fs in the flash, making the device brickable with a bad update.

So there is nothing in ROM that can be used to botstrap things? So how do you unbrick it?

Krystian Galaj · 05-21-2008, 01:30 PM

You buy a new one, I think.

01-25-2008, 10:31 AM	#18
Prospect Other Posts: 143 Karma: 644 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Norway Device: Cybook, Kindle	That might be an indication but we do not now how that the order numbers are determinated and it is likely that this number include orders for other items, such as Cybook gen1 or batteries. Last edited by Prospect; 01-25-2008 at 11:03 AM. Reason: typo

05-20-2008, 04:05 PM	#26
Ramen Connoisseur Posts: 87 Karma: 800 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Switzerland Device: Kindle 3, BeBook	Given the news item, I thought I'd add my wishes as well. Note: I do not own a Cybook (mainly for monitary reasons[€->SFr + shipping]) What I'd like to see in any such a device, is: COM port/RS-232 as has been mentioned on the previous page. There are several ways to make this discrete and without using too much space. It's a developer interface, so you can hide it just about anywhere or require external adapters, leaving just a tiny connector on the actual device (under a hood for instance or on the back-side, not the edge). Even custom interfaces are fine if proper documentation and usability is ensured. Full (and usable) documentation of the hardware. Examples are welcome. Linux sources with some documentation. Backup BIOS (such as every modern mainboard has) to help you recover in case of a bad flash. The above is meant to make developing for the Cybook Gen 4 as easy as possible. Typical excuses are "trade secrets" and the like but those are usually bullshit excuses (ref: Adaptec and VIA). Without proper developer support, your stuck with current problems (PDF support, bugs, etc).

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01-25-2008, 09:53 AM	#16
Prospect Other Posts: 143 Karma: 644 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Norway Device: Cybook, Kindle	Does anybody have an idea of how many units of the Gen3 that is currently sold? Is it like 100 or 10 000?

01-25-2008, 10:42 AM	#19
tribble iLiad Maniac Posts: 1,382 Karma: 2369 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Device: Bookeen Opus (i love that thing) and iPad (what an irony)	My estimated guess would be around a few thousand.

01-25-2008, 12:24 PM	#20
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Gen3 orders seemed to start at about 1500 or so (mine was one of the first orders and was 16-something). If they are at 10000 now, that probably indicates that they've had about 8000-ish orders.

01-25-2008, 12:58 PM	#21
Prospect Other Posts: 143 Karma: 644 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Norway Device: Cybook, Kindle	Or even more since some orders would consist of more than one device

01-25-2008, 01:04 PM	#22
yvanleterrible Reborn Paper User Posts: 8,616 Karma: 15446734 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Que Nada Device: iPhone8, iPad Air	I remember Bookeen at first wanting to be in business selling readers to corporations. I wonder what came of that...

03-16-2008, 10:29 PM	#23
Barcey Wizard Posts: 1,531 Karma: 8059866 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Device: Kobo H2O / Aura HD / Glo / iPad3	One thing I'd like to see is an optional remote for page turns. I find that I read a fair bit with a book chair. I tried a book chair with paper books but found it more of a bother fussing with page turns. It works well with the ebook except reaching to turn pages. I would feel better knowing that I could just buy another remote if it broke too. Waterproof so I can read while doing the dishes or with my rubber ducky in the tub.

03-16-2008, 10:35 PM	#24
binzer Zealot Posts: 114 Karma: 195 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Victoria BC, Canada Device: Cybook Gen3	I REALLY hope that Bookeen doesn't come out with a Gen4 soon, simply because I haven't even gotten my Cybook in the mail yet and I'm not too eager for it to be out of date :P I would LOVE some new firmware however C'moooon folders! Anyways, all the suggestions made so far are good ones, but navigation > wi-fi imo. For me it's all about the reading experience, since that's what I'll spend most of my time doing. I don't really care if it takes me an extra few minutes to download books (although I guess wi-fi is nice for news).

05-21-2008, 09:35 AM	#27
igorsk Wizard Posts: 3,442 Karma: 300001 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Belgium Device: PRS-500/505/700, Kindle, Cybook Gen3, Words Gear	Bookeen doesn't offer Linux sources (and, apprently, refuses to provide them even when asked) and they have only a single copy of bootloader and root fs in the flash, making the device brickable with a bad update. Notably, both Sony and Amazon offer full Linux sources with all necessary drivers. Further, both Reader and Kindle do have backup bootloader and root filesystem which are activated in case of problems with the main ones. Granted, they don't offer documentation on the ways to get inside the device, but that's been figured out (they both have a serial port with shell running).

05-21-2008, 10:28 AM	#28
Ramen Connoisseur Posts: 87 Karma: 800 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Switzerland Device: Kindle 3, BeBook	Nice blog and what we'd need for the Cybook. OT: Same Igor as with unichrome?

05-21-2008, 01:30 PM	#30
Krystian Galaj Guru Posts: 820 Karma: 11012 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Warsaw, Poland Device: Bookeen Cybook	You buy a new one, I think.

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