Development POCKET EDGE ROM BOUNTY

vicinc · 06-17-2011, 04:15 PM

DONOR> I am offering 50 USD BOUNTY for a new PE (and Big Edge if possible) ROM. It has to have proper recovery system and ability to transfer any page to e-ink from lcd at a touch of a button.
I invite other users to become donors so we can start a rom development for the community.

emusan · 06-17-2011, 09:21 PM

I hate to say this, but I don't think that there are any qualified developers with an EE/PE that would be able to do this(there may be one or two, but I'm not sure how good they are with Android), and if there are none have mentioned it... At this point it wouldn't matter how much we gave them, they would need a device and other motivation as well. That said, if anyone does manage to do it I'd be willing to send some cash their way, depending on my financial situation at the time...

Please don't forget that what you are asking for is a MONUMENTAL task, and would take at least a month for an experienced /team/ to complete. They would have even less to go on then entourage when they were making their own build of 2.2, and even entourage(who probably had more than one person working on ermine) took a lot of time and still never got rid of all the bugs. Frankly, I don't see such a thing happening in the near future, sorry.

Last_of_the_PEs · 06-17-2011, 10:05 PM

Was this about finishing Ermine or adapting Honeycomb? I didn't buy the PE expecting it to run Honeycomb. I figured if it ran Froyo without barfing I'd be home free.

Now if a "team" wants to get Market working, that'd be really nice, but I'm not even desperate for THAT.

As Emusan indicated, the top "enthusiast" developers are focusing on more open platforms, like the Viewsonic, Samsung, HTC etc. Making a dent in the eDGe platform would be harder and benefit fewer people.

vicinc · 06-18-2011, 06:16 AM

you never know maybe an ex-employee could be interested. also the time scale is not realistic. I know Robot did a lot of progress in a very short time. I just hoped that with the discounted price maybe some EE would have gone to developers which would have loved to see more features to their device.

paula-t · 06-18-2011, 12:31 PM

Well there is a point in this.

Developers have a very sporty attitude, appreciating challenges and opportunities, many times just for the joy of cracking things.

If prices go down, it may be that some developer picks up the glove of something "impossible" and devote some time to working on Ermine on an Edge.

(Also, some generous former engineer at Edge could want to throw us a bone with tips or clues about Ermine development. We can also use the mafia to persuade them to collaborate, but there might be a budgeting problem with this. Last time I checked the mafia job portal, they were not even bothering replying 50 bucks job posts.)

Nevertheless, as far as motivations and spirit goes, people who have a zest for these things can be inclined to do the most painstaking tasks just for the pleasure of it.

(On a different level, I can spend many hours in holidays time unknotting a mess of wool just for the pleasure of fixing something wrong, or laying out in the most precious terms a txt rare book I found at Gutemberg project, just for the pleasure of improving things. People not only does things for money or immediate profit.)

So this is possible. Developers are a special kind of people, I have come to know firsthand.

mr_ed · 06-18-2011, 01:49 PM

From your fingers to God's eyes. ;-)

-- Ed

vicinc · 06-18-2011, 08:50 PM

If the entourage would have had a better attitude toward developers and making the device more prone to experimenting (like having standard recovery), probably they will be still here.

yugami · 06-19-2011, 08:07 PM

They did seem to do a lot of things "their way" instead of a fairly straight forward way. If you look in the update.zip or even the development part of the old forums you can see them spending time locking people out and just generally not being helpful in any way.

Between their poor marketing and their insistence on not having a developer community I can see why things went south for them

vicinc · 06-20-2011, 10:34 AM

exactly. I would be great to have a standard recovery on their ermine rom. this could get some more people to experiment. any luck you could get me images for the mdt partition so I could see if i can restart my device. A u-boot with recovery may be ideal if we could get something like this.

vicinc · 06-21-2011, 08:08 AM

wrong thread. deleted

06-17-2011, 04:15 PM	#1
vicinc Guru Posts: 733 Karma: 443 Join Date: May 2011 Location: UK Device: Pocket Edgex2(1unborked), Alex, Nook B&W, Nook Color, Nook STR	POCKET EDGE ROM BOUNTY DONOR> I am offering 50 USD BOUNTY for a new PE (and Big Edge if possible) ROM. It has to have proper recovery system and ability to transfer any page to e-ink from lcd at a touch of a button. I invite other users to become donors so we can start a rom development for the community.

06-21-2011, 08:08 AM	#10
vicinc Guru Posts: 733 Karma: 443 Join Date: May 2011 Location: UK Device: Pocket Edgex2(1unborked), Alex, Nook B&W, Nook Color, Nook STR	wrong thread. deleted Last edited by vicinc; 06-21-2011 at 08:10 AM.

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06-17-2011, 09:21 PM	#2
emusan lol Posts: 472 Karma: 1031 Join Date: May 2011 Device: eDGe	I hate to say this, but I don't think that there are any qualified developers with an EE/PE that would be able to do this(there may be one or two, but I'm not sure how good they are with Android), and if there are none have mentioned it... At this point it wouldn't matter how much we gave them, they would need a device and other motivation as well. That said, if anyone does manage to do it I'd be willing to send some cash their way, depending on my financial situation at the time... Please don't forget that what you are asking for is a MONUMENTAL task, and would take at least a month for an experienced /team/ to complete. They would have even less to go on then entourage when they were making their own build of 2.2, and even entourage(who probably had more than one person working on ermine) took a lot of time and still never got rid of all the bugs. Frankly, I don't see such a thing happening in the near future, sorry.

06-17-2011, 10:05 PM	#3
Last_of_the_PEs Groupie Posts: 192 Karma: 34 Join Date: May 2011 Device: Entourage PE	Was this about finishing Ermine or adapting Honeycomb? I didn't buy the PE expecting it to run Honeycomb. I figured if it ran Froyo without barfing I'd be home free. Now if a "team" wants to get Market working, that'd be really nice, but I'm not even desperate for THAT. As Emusan indicated, the top "enthusiast" developers are focusing on more open platforms, like the Viewsonic, Samsung, HTC etc. Making a dent in the eDGe platform would be harder and benefit fewer people.

06-18-2011, 06:16 AM	#4
vicinc Guru Posts: 733 Karma: 443 Join Date: May 2011 Location: UK Device: Pocket Edgex2(1unborked), Alex, Nook B&W, Nook Color, Nook STR	you never know maybe an ex-employee could be interested. also the time scale is not realistic. I know Robot did a lot of progress in a very short time. I just hoped that with the discounted price maybe some EE would have gone to developers which would have loved to see more features to their device.

06-18-2011, 12:31 PM	#5
paula-t Member Posts: 21 Karma: 14 Join Date: Mar 2011 Device: Entourage Edge	Well there is a point in this. Developers have a very sporty attitude, appreciating challenges and opportunities, many times just for the joy of cracking things. If prices go down, it may be that some developer picks up the glove of something "impossible" and devote some time to working on Ermine on an Edge. (Also, some generous former engineer at Edge could want to throw us a bone with tips or clues about Ermine development. We can also use the mafia to persuade them to collaborate, but there might be a budgeting problem with this. Last time I checked the mafia job portal, they were not even bothering replying 50 bucks job posts.) Nevertheless, as far as motivations and spirit goes, people who have a zest for these things can be inclined to do the most painstaking tasks just for the pleasure of it. (On a different level, I can spend many hours in holidays time unknotting a mess of wool just for the pleasure of fixing something wrong, or laying out in the most precious terms a txt rare book I found at Gutemberg project, just for the pleasure of improving things. People not only does things for money or immediate profit.) So this is possible. Developers are a special kind of people, I have come to know firsthand.

06-18-2011, 01:49 PM	#6
mr_ed Connoisseur Posts: 53 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Denver, CO, USA Device: been e-reading since Handspring's first PDA	From your fingers to God's eyes. ;-) -- Ed

06-18-2011, 08:50 PM	#7
vicinc Guru Posts: 733 Karma: 443 Join Date: May 2011 Location: UK Device: Pocket Edgex2(1unborked), Alex, Nook B&W, Nook Color, Nook STR	If the entourage would have had a better attitude toward developers and making the device more prone to experimenting (like having standard recovery), probably they will be still here.

06-19-2011, 08:07 PM	#8
yugami Connoisseur Posts: 76 Karma: 18 Join Date: May 2011 Device: PRS+950	They did seem to do a lot of things "their way" instead of a fairly straight forward way. If you look in the update.zip or even the development part of the old forums you can see them spending time locking people out and just generally not being helpful in any way. Between their poor marketing and their insistence on not having a developer community I can see why things went south for them

06-20-2011, 10:34 AM	#9
vicinc Guru Posts: 733 Karma: 443 Join Date: May 2011 Location: UK Device: Pocket Edgex2(1unborked), Alex, Nook B&W, Nook Color, Nook STR	exactly. I would be great to have a standard recovery on their ermine rom. this could get some more people to experiment. any luck you could get me images for the mdt partition so I could see if i can restart my device. A u-boot with recovery may be ideal if we could get something like this.

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