Is there any way to use embedded fonts?

MikeJ024 · 01-17-2022, 11:19 PM

Hi, I'm new here & I would like to know the following: is there any way to use the embedded fonts when converting formats?
I.E. I create all starting e-book documents by scanning the book using Omnipage 18 & creating a .RTF document copy which I then format. I try to use a matching Font to the original book especially matching any chapter title fonts as close as possible. But when I add the book to Calibre & convert it to .epub or .mobi the fonts from word are all converted to Times New Roman (Ugh! which I hate). I know I can change the font family Calibre uses but I want to know if there is any way to use the actual fonts from the .RTF doucument when converting? please let me know.

BetterRed · 01-18-2022, 12:31 AM

If you are using a recent edition of MS Word try saving the text as DOCX file and convert that, the built-in DOCX Conversion Input plugin is considerably more capable than the RTF equivalent - and it is actively maintained by the creator of Calibre.

See ==>> Format specific tips

BR

Quoth · 01-18-2022, 05:04 AM

What BetterRed ^^^^^ writes.

Same applies to LibreOffice. Edit in odt format and do extra Save As in docx as the odt input plug-in isn't as good and won't be improved.
Don't convert on a different PC unless you know about embedding or copying fonts.

OpenOffice name is owned by Oracle, so that project is basically dead. All the main contributors moved to the LibreOffice fork.

I only use RTF as a last resort to import documents to LO Writer or MS Word, and then all the styles and links and headings need checked.

My odt with Save As to docx and then conversion to epub2 are all looking like the original. I then only use a checked epub2 as the source for all other conversions. Amazon KDP works best with epub2 upload anyway.

I only use PDF for upload to POD / paper publishing, though I have about 30 old scanned books as PDF unavailable even for money in any other format. Too much effort to OCR and proof unless I was publishing them.

Moonbase59 · 01-18-2022, 02:32 PM

Yup, it’s a shame that .odt isn’t held at the level of .docx (for Calibre). I (and many of my friends) ditched Windows in favour of Linux 10+ years ago, to happily never come back. So LibreOffice is the standard Office suite, of course. Many companies also use LO instead of the ever-changing MS Office, which often is not even backwards-compatible to its own documents.

Then again, maybe the sheer number (=market share) of MS Office users might have been the reason for that decision.

Took me a while to realize you’d have to save a LibreOffice Writer document in the ("foreign") .docx format instead of the native .odt to get full functionality.

Quoth · 01-23-2022, 02:22 PM

Save As also any time needing Calibre conversion! You still need the odt for full functionality of editing as opening a docx is a conversion! You don't 100% have what you exported with the Save As.

Moonbase59 · 01-23-2022, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quoth

Save As also any time needing Calibre conversion! You still need the odt for full functionality of editing as opening a docx is a conversion!

Yup, I know, but that is still an important tip for others!

(My e-books mostly originate from Markdown sources.)

01-17-2022, 11:19 PM	#1
MikeJ024 Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Nerw York City Device: FBReader/Android	Is there any way to use embedded fonts? Hi, I'm new here & I would like to know the following: is there any way to use the embedded fonts when converting formats? I.E. I create all starting e-book documents by scanning the book using Omnipage 18 & creating a .RTF document copy which I then format. I try to use a matching Font to the original book especially matching any chapter title fonts as close as possible. But when I add the book to Calibre & convert it to .epub or .mobi the fonts from word are all converted to Times New Roman (Ugh! which I hate). I know I can change the font family Calibre uses but I want to know if there is any way to use the actual fonts from the .RTF doucument when converting? please let me know.

01-18-2022, 02:32 PM	#4
Moonbase59 Zealot Posts: 111 Karma: 196896 Join Date: Oct 2021 Location: Germany Device: Tolino Vision 5, Tolino Tab 8"	Yup, it’s a shame that .odt isn’t held at the level of .docx (for Calibre). I (and many of my friends) ditched Windows in favour of Linux 10+ years ago, to happily never come back. So LibreOffice is the standard Office suite, of course. Many companies also use LO instead of the ever-changing MS Office, which often is not even backwards-compatible to its own documents. Then again, maybe the sheer number (=market share) of MS Office users might have been the reason for that decision. Took me a while to realize you’d have to save a LibreOffice Writer document in the ("foreign") .docx format instead of the native .odt to get full functionality. Last edited by Moonbase59; 01-19-2022 at 06:16 AM.

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01-18-2022, 12:31 AM	#2
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 20,567 Karma: 26954694 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	If you are using a recent edition of MS Word try saving the text as DOCX file and convert that, the built-in DOCX Conversion Input plugin is considerably more capable than the RTF equivalent - and it is actively maintained by the creator of Calibre. See ==>> Format specific tips BR

01-18-2022, 05:04 AM	#3
Quoth the rook, bossing Never. Posts: 11,156 Karma: 85874891 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper11	What BetterRed ^^^^^ writes. Same applies to LibreOffice. Edit in odt format and do extra Save As in docx as the odt input plug-in isn't as good and won't be improved. Don't convert on a different PC unless you know about embedding or copying fonts. OpenOffice name is owned by Oracle, so that project is basically dead. All the main contributors moved to the LibreOffice fork. I only use RTF as a last resort to import documents to LO Writer or MS Word, and then all the styles and links and headings need checked. My odt with Save As to docx and then conversion to epub2 are all looking like the original. I then only use a checked epub2 as the source for all other conversions. Amazon KDP works best with epub2 upload anyway. I only use PDF for upload to POD / paper publishing, though I have about 30 old scanned books as PDF unavailable even for money in any other format. Too much effort to OCR and proof unless I was publishing them.

01-23-2022, 02:22 PM	#5
Quoth the rook, bossing Never. Posts: 11,156 Karma: 85874891 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper11	Save As also any time needing Calibre conversion! You still need the odt for full functionality of editing as opening a docx is a conversion! You don't 100% have what you exported with the Save As.

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