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How the <guide> section in the OPF is interpreted. Depreciated method (in terms of HTML5) for declaring UTF-8 as the character encoding. |
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Even though most epub2 apps will ignore the guide section, adding the guide items recommended by Amazon won't invalidate an epub book, because they're a part of the epub2 specs. BTW, Sigil has a dedicated menu option for adding guide items (Add Semantics...). Quote:
In fact, according to section 2.2.1 of the Kindle Publishing Guidelines, Amazon recommends using valid epub books. |
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------ I must say this thread has become tedious. After five pages nothing constructive has been said about creating mobi files - I do not count pushing automated software for a round-about method as a viable solution. However, I've taught myself how to do it using source files fed directly into KindleGen by reading the Publishing Guidelines and perusing the myriad example provided by Amazon. |
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You don't need HTML5. The Mobi part of the dual-mobi file doe snot support HTML5. KF8 does not need HTML5. So stop trying to use HTML5.
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You also claimed that it isn't possible to create valid epubs with Amazon guide items with Sigil, which simply isn't true. Quote:
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?docId=1000765211 ... on the right.
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ePub 2 was XHTML 1.1, whereas ePub 3 is XHTML5 (according to http://www.idpf.org/epub/30/spec/epu...changed-xhtml5). In that same document it states that <guide> and NCX has been depreciated in ePub 3 (http://www.idpf.org/epub/30/spec/epu...c-deprecations). So which version of ePub do you make with Sigil? If ePub 2, then you can't use HTML5 tags; if ePub 3, then NCX - which KindleGen requires in an ePub - and <guide> are gone. Or do you go for a hybrid ePub 2/3 that might or might not work as expected on all devices? Quote:
There is an “or” in there, so the use of an ePub is optional. |
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For example--you want to use article? Aside? Figure? Footer? Good luck with that, because NONE of those will work on the PRC/KF side of your MOBI file. That's what Jon (Wolfie) was saying, in his own way, when he said, "HTML5 doesn't work," or words to that effect. Most of us have learned--the hard way--that thinking that X is a great idea, or that we can do X, because it works in Y, doesn't work in MOBI format, or at best, only works in KF8, and not in KF7. And sometimes, it won't work consistently or reliably across KF8, OR, it will work for Amazon KF8, but you can't make it work decently in iOS readers for Kindle. For that matter, I'll tell you that there's crap in the KPG that flatly DOES. NOT. BLOODY. WORK, and if you get into it with Amazon--I mean, Seattle, not some guy at the call center/CSR in India--you'll find two completely different divisions telling you completely, and I mean, completely opposite things, coding-wise. The KPG came around from two standpoints--one was Mobipocket, and the other was Word--period. To this day, it's a bit of a mishmosh, constantly being updated and tweaked and FIXED. The examples are, by and large--wrong. They have been for years. BUT, hey: good luck with your MOBI files. As far as how tedious or tiring or boring, etc., this thread is, you asked about making a MOBI, by its lonesome, w/o ePUB. Fine. I told you several different ways to do it, all of them pretty much the ONLY ways to do it. As far as ePUB, ANYONE at Amazon will tell you that ePUB is definitely preferred, and moreover, EVERY BPH loads ePUB, and only ePUB, to Amazon. Without exception. So, you can sit here and argue with us--those of us who've made thousands of mobis--that you know better, because, bygod, you read the INSTRUCTIONS--but when Doits tells you that ePUB is preferred, it was, it is, and it has been, and yes, it's been in the KPG practically since the beginning. Because Amazon's come out with those two godawful tools, the KindleCreate tools, they've dropped that last line from the KPG, but for professional publishers, I think you can reasonably infer that they'll be uploading ePUBs, in both 2 and 3 format, for years to come. /hopefully, done with this thread now. Hitch |
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>To create Kindle files using KindleGen, you need: > A single HTML file that represents the entire book; or > EPUB-compliant files. |
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