Older version of Sigil

holdit · 10-21-2021, 01:10 PM

I'm now in Big Sur 11.6, I opened Sigil and it reminded me of an update. Soon as I did that and re opened the entire Sigil interface is different. Much more confusing to me as I have been using Sigil for 8+ years looking at the same interface until now. Is there anyway I can download and older version of Sigil and remain with it and not have to update.

I tried to download older versions but they always come up with the newer interface. Do I have to delete any other files??? Preference files ??

???

DiapDealer · 10-21-2021, 01:19 PM

You can stay with whatever version of Sigil you want for as long as you like, and you never have to update. Just dismiss any "New Version" messages you may occasionally get. All versions of Sigil are available for download from Sigil's Github releases section.

As to why you can't get any of these older versions to work properly, I'll leave that up to the Mac experts.

KevinH · 10-21-2021, 02:22 PM

What are you missing? Are you looking for BookView? If so you should download Sigil-0.9.14.

If you just want the old icons back with a more recent version of Sigil, you can just install the Legacy icon theme from our Sigil Icon theme repo.

holdit · 10-22-2021, 02:44 PM

Thx Kevin, its the interface design that throws me off the older design with the option to view book and code next to each other among other things. I tried to download an install older versions which previously had that interface but they all seem to show up nw under the colored interface. I even uninstalled ALL the Sigil files using n uninstaller app. But when I go to re install I still get the same interface.

What version (Mac) did the new interface first appear in? I want to make sure I'm redownloading the version BEOFRE the change.

Thx R

holdit · 10-22-2021, 02:47 PM

Ah yes! got it 0.9.14 it is!

Tex2002ans · 10-22-2021, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by holdit

Thx Kevin, its the interface design that throws me off the older design with the option to view book and code next to each other among other things.

Back in 2019, I wrote step-by-step instructions on how to install PageEdit + get it working in Sigil.

PageEdit is like the "new" BookView. Instead of being built into Sigil though, it's a separate program. But once you install it using that method above, it'll be a button-click away, similar to the old BookView!

You can also press View > Preview (F10) to display a read-only preview window. This will visually show you what the book looks like as you work on the code.

Quote:

Originally Posted by holdit

Ah yes! got it 0.9.14 it is!

Yep, that's the last version before BookView was taken out.

BetterRed · 10-22-2021, 04:37 PM

Quote:

"…the interface design that throws me off the older design with the option to view book and code next to each other"

Says to me the OP wants the Preview window, to get that they should press F10. It's a toggle.

BR

KevinH · 10-22-2021, 07:13 PM

Yes, Preview and CodeView are the only way to see things side by side. I am not sure what is being asked for here. That is why I suggested the latest Sigil with the Legacy Icons installed (obviously with Preview turned on).

DiapDealer · 10-22-2021, 10:03 PM

Sigil did use to have a split view (CV+BV) that was a synchronization nightmare. Maybe that's what they're remembering. But that has been gone since before beta versions of Sigil 0.6.0. We're talking nearly a decade. Before Kevin and I took over maintenance.

KevinH · 10-23-2021, 11:08 AM

Wow, I never new that. I can see that synchronizing changes across the two windows side by side would be a nightmare!

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Sigil did use to have a split view (CV+BV) that was a synchronization nightmare. Maybe that's what they're remembering. But that has been gone since before beta versions of Sigil 0.6.0. We're talking nearly a decade. Before Kevin and I took over maintenance.

DiapDealer · 10-23-2021, 12:46 PM

Yes. I downloaded an installer from a Google Code archive and was able to break the synchronization within a few seconds (just like I remembered). The views available were Book View (F9), Split View (F10), and Code View (F11). It was actually split horizontally.

Attached is a screenshot of Sigil 0.5.3's Split View in action (QStackedWidget with a horizontal splitter). Split View disappeared sometime before the official 0.6.0 release (which represented a considerable overhaul of Sigil at the time). It was deemed much easier to ditch than maintain. Seems we weren't the first Sigil devs to ditch popular, but terribly problematic, inherited boat-anchor features.

10-21-2021, 01:10 PM	#1
holdit Connoisseur Posts: 86 Karma: 470352 Join Date: Dec 2012 Device: Kindle Fire, IPad	Older version of Sigil I'm now in Big Sur 11.6, I opened Sigil and it reminded me of an update. Soon as I did that and re opened the entire Sigil interface is different. Much more confusing to me as I have been using Sigil for 8+ years looking at the same interface until now. Is there anyway I can download and older version of Sigil and remain with it and not have to update. I tried to download older versions but they always come up with the newer interface. Do I have to delete any other files??? Preference files ?? ???

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10-21-2021, 01:19 PM	#2
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,546 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	You can stay with whatever version of Sigil you want for as long as you like, and you never have to update. Just dismiss any "New Version" messages you may occasionally get. All versions of Sigil are available for download from Sigil's Github releases section. As to why you can't get any of these older versions to work properly, I'll leave that up to the Mac experts.

10-21-2021, 02:22 PM	#3
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 7,630 Karma: 5433388 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	What are you missing? Are you looking for BookView? If so you should download Sigil-0.9.14. If you just want the old icons back with a more recent version of Sigil, you can just install the Legacy icon theme from our Sigil Icon theme repo.

10-22-2021, 02:44 PM	#4
holdit Connoisseur Posts: 86 Karma: 470352 Join Date: Dec 2012 Device: Kindle Fire, IPad	Thx Kevin, its the interface design that throws me off the older design with the option to view book and code next to each other among other things. I tried to download an install older versions which previously had that interface but they all seem to show up nw under the colored interface. I even uninstalled ALL the Sigil files using n uninstaller app. But when I go to re install I still get the same interface. What version (Mac) did the new interface first appear in? I want to make sure I'm redownloading the version BEOFRE the change. Thx R

10-22-2021, 02:47 PM	#5
holdit Connoisseur Posts: 86 Karma: 470352 Join Date: Dec 2012 Device: Kindle Fire, IPad	Ah yes! got it 0.9.14 it is!

10-22-2021, 07:13 PM	#8
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 7,630 Karma: 5433388 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	Yes, Preview and CodeView are the only way to see things side by side. I am not sure what is being asked for here. That is why I suggested the latest Sigil with the Legacy Icons installed (obviously with Preview turned on).

10-22-2021, 10:03 PM	#9
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,546 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	Sigil did use to have a split view (CV+BV) that was a synchronization nightmare. Maybe that's what they're remembering. But that has been gone since before beta versions of Sigil 0.6.0. We're talking nearly a decade. Before Kevin and I took over maintenance.

10-23-2021, 12:46 PM	#11
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,546 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	Yes. I downloaded an installer from a Google Code archive and was able to break the synchronization within a few seconds (just like I remembered). The views available were Book View (F9), Split View (F10), and Code View (F11). It was actually split horizontally. Attached is a screenshot of Sigil 0.5.3's Split View in action (QStackedWidget with a horizontal splitter). Split View disappeared sometime before the official 0.6.0 release (which represented a considerable overhaul of Sigil at the time). It was deemed much easier to ditch than maintain. Seems we weren't the first Sigil devs to ditch popular, but terribly problematic, inherited boat-anchor features.