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Old 02-28-2011, 12:13 PM   #1
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what is this code supposed to do ?

found in several places in an epub that I've been tweaking:

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<address class="calibre11" w:st="on">
    Unseelie Court
  </address>
i don't understand the w:st bit, I can chop out all but the text & nothing seems to go wrong, however.

& an address tag makes no sens in an e-book context ?
the calibre style just adds italics.
.calibre11 {
display: block;
font-style: italic
}
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Old 02-28-2011, 01:05 PM   #2
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If I'm not mistaken, "w:st" would mean "the 'st' property from the 'w' namespace which was defined previously). But anyway, as you say, <address> is not in the supported tag set of ePUB, so it shouldn't be there at all.
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Old 02-28-2011, 01:21 PM   #3
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If I'm not mistaken, "w:st" would mean "the 'st' property from the 'w' namespace which was defined previously).
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and that would be defined in the html, or the css ?

I suspect they are leftovers from some other format - maybe MSword ?

I don't get the namespace concept at all here ?

the only namespace mention in css is
@namespace h "http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml";
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Old 02-28-2011, 04:26 PM   #4
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and that would be defined in the html, or the css ?

I suspect they are leftovers from some other format - maybe MSword ?

I don't get the namespace concept at all here ?

the only namespace mention in css is
@namespace h "http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml";
Address is a HTML tag (that mucks up a conversion) that is intended for Street Locations.

In conversions, it should be only rendered as italic, what happens, is it causes unwanted line breaks.
Code:
<p> Jason went to</p< <address>El Camino Real"</address> <p> to catch the 22 bus.</p>
Ugly
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Old 02-28-2011, 04:36 PM   #5
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Address is a HTML tag (that mucks up a conversion) that is intended for Street Locations.

In conversions, it should be only rendered as italic, what happens, is it causes unwanted line breaks.
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<p> Jason went to</p< <address>El Camino Real"</address> <p> to catch the 22 bus.</p>
Ugly
yes, I've seen that mess up in another book

so what would your example code do on a web page, or in a document - it has no attached URL so I don't get the point of it, still ? is it just a style thing ?
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yes, I've seen that mess up in another book

so what would your example code do on a web page, or in a document - it has no attached URL so I don't get the point of it, still ? is it just a style thing ?
Yes it is just a style thing.
There is no URL in the book (HTML version)
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But anyway, as you say, <address> is not in the supported tag set of ePUB
Sorry, I was wrong, <address> is an allowed tag, as can be seen here. The styling is up to the CSS and defaults, though.

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and that would be defined in the html, or the css ?

I don't get the namespace concept at all here ?
It would be defined in the X(HT)ML. Have a look here.
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so what would your example code do on a web page, or in a document - it has no attached URL so I don't get the point of it, still ? is it just a style thing ?
It's not entirely a style thing, though most web browsers will display text between the opening and closing ADDRESS tags in italics. It's more to do with information semantics, and coding stuff according to its semantic context. Same idea as coding a heading using a heading tag rather than simply using a paragraph tag and styling it to look like a heading.

The <address> tag is really meant to code something as a meaningful address, such as the address of the author of a page, or the company whose website it is, etc. It's not intended for web addresses with URLs - it's meant for use with bricks and mortar addresses.

In theory, the software being used to access the web page could then extract the info and present it to the user on request. In practice, the <address> tag is hardly ever used, and I don't know of any software that makes use of it to extract the information.
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If I'm not mistaken those <address> tags have been created when saving an MSWord document to HTML. The option SaveAs Webpage has been used, rather than the preferable Webpage-filtered. I believe they are Word "smart tags" and that the w:st="on" bit probably means that the Word smart tags feature was set to "on" when the original .doc was saved to HTML.
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If I'm not mistaken those <address> tags have been created when saving an MSWord document to HTML. The option SaveAs Webpage has been used, rather than the preferable Webpage-filtered. I believe they are Word "smart tags" and that the w:st="on" bit probably means that the Word smart tags feature was set to "on" when the original .doc was saved to HTML.
excellent deduction - thanks.
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