10-25-2011, 06:52 PM | #61 |
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I read the book this year, and it made Apple look like a company stuck in the stone age
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10-26-2011, 04:12 AM | #62 | |
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They have a tendency to stoop over themselves in order to make a buck or two. Don't know if Jan Guilou is available in English (he predates Larsson) he is a very well known radical that lives the most exquisite bourgeois life style you can imagine. His books are also filled with famous (especially American) brands. |
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10-26-2011, 04:54 AM | #63 |
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In answer to the thread, NO, I would not want ad's for anything, it's a rubbish idea. I want to read what I choose, not what an outside agency does. Rant over. For now...... On this subject...... |
10-26-2011, 06:05 AM | #64 | |
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I have no idea what the right model would be, by the way. The day I study marketing or advertising is the day I swan dive into a meat grinder. Last edited by caleb72; 10-26-2011 at 06:09 AM. |
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10-26-2011, 07:26 AM | #65 |
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10-26-2011, 09:37 AM | #66 | |
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Would I buy (or download it for free) a book that contains ads? Hell no. Would I buy book that collects demographics information? When hell freezes over, and probably not even then. I'll buy DVD's of series that I want to see without commercials, why then would I want to read a book that contains those commercials again (in the form of ads)? |
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10-26-2011, 10:03 AM | #67 |
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It depends on the book. I'd be quite happy to read non-fiction with an ad at the end of each chapter if the book was free (or very nearly). Fiction, not a chance.
http://bookboon.com do something similar already. |
10-26-2011, 02:30 PM | #68 | |
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No way, no how. Well, maybe if it was for work and at the end of the chapter.
I would be totally ok with the book excerpts in the back of the book - this is basicly standard in romances - but I have a lot of concern about book excerpts, too. Dear Author had an article about "bloated ebook files" and how publishers were placing more ads for other books inside of newly published ebooks than actual content. Quote:
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10-26-2011, 03:43 PM | #69 |
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As a Kindle with Special Offers user, I don't mind the ads an special offers for the screensaver or the small, non-blinking, banner at the bottom of the Kindle's contents screens.
However, I would absolutely abhor any kind of advertising in the book. Advertising in a book takes you out of the story. As MrsJoseph said, I really don't want to see those long excerpts from other books in the file either. I've also ran into the 40% of the file is an excerpt situation. It totally mesed up the reading experience as I thought there was a lot more of the story yet to read. |
10-26-2011, 05:00 PM | #70 |
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So I am surely feeling my age, because I remember they had ads in comics when I was a young 'un. (Remember Charles Atlas and the "The Insult that made a man out of Mac?"). These ads did not detract from my enjoyment of the story at all. I also remember that there were ads in the SF magazines that I read. Those ads didn't slow me down either.
Now I understand the conceptv of people not liking the possibility of ads where they were'nt before. Hiowevetr, so long as there is an ad-free option available at full price and so long as the ad-supported version offers benefits to those who are OK with ads, I can't understand why people would object to the idea. Actually, in the case of the KSO , its the other way around, I hear. There are people who buy the ad-free Kindles who envy the deals KSO owners get , according to the Amazon Kindle forums. People are different and there are the hardcore no ads people andthe "Why not ads" people. So long as there options for both, no big deal. |
10-26-2011, 06:07 PM | #71 | |
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I think you nailed it. The gouging to read non ad books would force everyone to read books with ads, in the long run no consumer benefit, just a less attractive product. Besides ads in books would mostly reach people who actually read and would inevitably be inneffective. |
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10-26-2011, 09:18 PM | #72 | |
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I don't understand why you also insist on holding up the KSO as a supporting argument. It's not the same. A KSO is like ads on the flap of the dust jacket, or ads at the end of the book. They do not impede the actual reading experience once you've opened up a book. Ads within ebooks are a different concept and not at all comparable to the KSO model. Last edited by howyoudoin; 10-26-2011 at 09:22 PM. |
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10-27-2011, 06:26 AM | #73 |
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A page of ads for every page of the book is too much. But saying that you pay for the advertisements is also strange. You pay for the story, not for each page of text.
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I'm willing to pay $4 on impulse for an 80,000 word novel. Sometimes, for a 50,000 word novel. I'm not willing to pay $4 on impulse for a 35,000 word novella and three 10,000 word excerpts from other novels, and all that does is convince me not to buy from that publisher/indie author again. I suspect that, if people complained to Amazon, they could get the books yanked under their "bad user experience" rule, which covers spam books and books with misleading titles. (Not things like, "it said 'Murder by Memory' and I thought it was a psychic powers story and instead it was about repressed memories of a serial killer." Rather, things like "title was 'Murder by Memory' and it was a collection of Wikipedia articles beginning with 'M'.") Advertising 150 pages of book, or 265kb of ebook, and half of that is advertisements, is misleading the customers. The easy way around that is to include the main story's word count in the description. |
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10-27-2011, 10:28 AM | #75 |
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Ads in the book, I am generally against. The only way that I would really accept them, is if they were before or after the story. Having an ad midstream prevents me from staying immersed in the book. If an ad free version was available, I'd buy that exclusively, unless the version with ads was free (and even then I'd still prefer to buy). If no ad free version was available, I'd remove the ads from any copy I purchased.
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