Murdoch: Give us Kindle subscriber names or else

ahi · 08-07-2009, 04:04 PM

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/08/...names-or-else/

Quote:

Rupert Murdoch's mad as hell, and he's not going to take it anymore. High-handed treatment from Amazon, that is.

On News Corp.'s (NWS) fiscal-year-end earnings call with analysts, the notoriously shoot-from-the-hip mogul suggested that The Wall Street Journal will cease to be available on the Kindle e-reader unless Amazon starts offering a more generous revenue split and more publisher-friendly policies.

Kali Yuga · 08-07-2009, 04:13 PM

Heh.... Well, he has a point. Papers like the WSJ get a lot of valuable demographic data that presumably they aren't getting from the Amazon version.

Then again, he also wants to put up a paywall for all Newscorp web sites. Newscorp is getting killed like every other newspaper outlet, and Murdoch is convinced that he's leaving money on the table.

Patricia · 08-07-2009, 04:54 PM

it's not just the Kindle.
Ruper Murdoch is planning to make his British newspapers pay-per-view for their online versions, starting with The Sunday Times. It seems that advertising revenues have been declining:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009...times-strategy

advocate2 · 08-07-2009, 06:24 PM

I have to pay $150 or so a year for my online access to the WSJ. Since Murdoch can keep all the money collecting directly from online subscribers, I can't blame him with the loss he takes when Amazon sells the same subscription for a comparable price but keeps a big chunk of the subscription price.

The situtation is very different for online editions where the entire paper is available for free on the internet. The only reason customers would pay Amazon for such papers is because of Amazon's delivery method. For me, I just get all the daily papers I can handle from Calibre using RSS feeds. Because I have a WSJ subscription, Calibre is able to convert the feed for my DX as well.

BTW, the WSJ has a mobile edition for phones that works just fine on the DX browser.

sforce · 08-14-2009, 12:30 PM

Enviable, I guess, but it sure has some people peeved:

"Amazon caves to Magazines and newspapers, now gives them your name address and billing information"

http://www.amazon.com/tag/kindle/forum/ref=cm_cd_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1D7SY 3BVSESG&cdThread=Tx3O3VUUI6JERZQ&displayType=tagsD etail

08-14-2009, 12:30 PM	#5
sforce Connoisseur Posts: 81 Karma: 184 Join Date: Aug 2009 Device: Plastic Logic (?)	Amazon Caves to Magazines and Newspapers, now gives them your info Enviable, I guess, but it sure has some people peeved: "Amazon caves to Magazines and newspapers, now gives them your name address and billing information" http://www.amazon.com/tag/kindle/forum/ref=cm_cd_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1D7SY 3BVSESG&cdThread=Tx3O3VUUI6JERZQ&displayType=tagsD etail

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08-07-2009, 04:13 PM	#2
Kali Yuga Professional Contrarian Posts: 2,045 Karma: 3289631 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: Kindle 4 No Touchie	Heh.... Well, he has a point. Papers like the WSJ get a lot of valuable demographic data that presumably they aren't getting from the Amazon version. Then again, he also wants to put up a paywall for all Newscorp web sites. Newscorp is getting killed like every other newspaper outlet, and Murdoch is convinced that he's leaving money on the table.

08-07-2009, 04:54 PM	#3
Patricia Reader Posts: 11,504 Karma: 8720163 Join Date: May 2007 Location: South Wales, UK Device: Sony PRS-500, PRS-505, Asus EEEpc 4G	it's not just the Kindle. Ruper Murdoch is planning to make his British newspapers pay-per-view for their online versions, starting with The Sunday Times. It seems that advertising revenues have been declining: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009...times-strategy

08-07-2009, 06:24 PM	#4
advocate2 My Kingdom for Karma Posts: 430 Karma: 7125 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Las Vegas Device: Sony 350, 650, 950, Nook Color	I have to pay $150 or so a year for my online access to the WSJ. Since Murdoch can keep all the money collecting directly from online subscribers, I can't blame him with the loss he takes when Amazon sells the same subscription for a comparable price but keeps a big chunk of the subscription price. The situtation is very different for online editions where the entire paper is available for free on the internet. The only reason customers would pay Amazon for such papers is because of Amazon's delivery method. For me, I just get all the daily papers I can handle from Calibre using RSS feeds. Because I have a WSJ subscription, Calibre is able to convert the feed for my DX as well. BTW, the WSJ has a mobile edition for phones that works just fine on the DX browser.

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