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Old 11-12-2015, 04:03 AM   #31
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It's just a really, really, bad idea. I can't think it will get through the EU Commission, but if it does I'm certain that the EU Parliament won't go for it.
I've given up thinking that the EU won't do something just because it's an insanely stupid idea
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Old 11-12-2015, 04:06 AM   #32
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I've given up thinking that the EU won't do something just because it's an insanely stupid idea
To be fair, the EU does a lot of sensible things, too. The abolition of roaming charges for voice and data across the EU from 2017 is a good thing.

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Old 11-12-2015, 05:11 AM   #33
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The EU also added VAT to eBooks which is a really stupid idea. I think the EU is living with their heads firmly placed up their backsides.
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Old 11-12-2015, 05:25 AM   #34
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The EU also added VAT to eBooks which is a really stupid idea. I think the EU is living with their heads firmly placed up their backsides.
Books have always been subject to VAT. Are you perhaps referring to the fact that paper books can attract a lower rate of VAT than ebooks?
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Old 11-12-2015, 06:09 AM   #35
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The EU also added VAT to eBooks which is a really stupid idea. I think the EU is living with their heads firmly placed up their backsides.
You pay taxes on ebooks in the US as well. It depends where you buy them from and where you are located. Ever since Amazon collects sales tax from me, they also collect tax for (some) ebooks.
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You pay taxes on ebooks in the US as well. It depends where you buy them from and where you are located. Ever since Amazon collects sales tax from me, they also collect tax for (some) ebooks.
And in some states, even if Amazon don't charge you sales tax, you are still required to pay "Use Tax" (an amount equal to the sales tax you would have paid, had it been charged) on them.
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Old 11-12-2015, 06:41 AM   #37
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To be fair, the EU does a lot of sensible things, too. The abolition of roaming charges for voice and data across the EU from 2017 is a good thing.
Well, it hasn't been approved by member countries yet, was meant to be in place by December this year and the latest proposal has limits of 100MB of data, 100 minutes of calls, and 50 texts at domestic rates while roaming, per year.

So, yes it was a good plan but the EU appear to be doing their up-most to make it completely useless.
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Old 11-12-2015, 09:11 AM   #38
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And in some states, even if Amazon don't charge you sales tax, you are still required to pay "Use Tax" (an amount equal to the sales tax you would have paid, had it been charged) on them.
Yes, right. That is why I specifically said that Amazon collects the tax now in many states (maybe all ?) that was already owed by the buyer to the state. Realistically almost nobody would pay their tax debt, so now it is up to the seller to enforce it by collecting it and then in turn pay it to the state in the buyers stead.
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Old 11-12-2015, 09:50 AM   #39
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Old 11-12-2015, 09:56 AM   #40
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"Günther Oettinger and Martin Schulz" sounds like the name of a comedy team. Which would explain a lot.
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Schulz isn't really funny, Oettinger on the other hand is a brilliant solo act:




(In the bit in German at the beginning he explains, how everybody, even simple workers, must be able to speak English...)
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