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Old 11-04-2020, 12:44 AM   #1
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Drawing on a Nation's Culture • November 2020

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The topic is Drawing on a Nation's Culture.

Books which draw on a nation as a whole's culture, rather than on or from some subculture, or group or individual within it, or however else you may interpret the topic.


Detailed nominating and voting guidelines can be found here. Basically, nominations are open for about four days and each person may nominate up to three literary selections which will go automatically to the vote. Voting by post then opens for four days, and a voter may give each nomination either one or two votes but only has a limited number of votes to use which is equal to the number of nominations minus one. Any questions, feel free to ask.

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  • The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
    Post . Goodreads . Preview . 302 Pages . Votes 3 . 1884 . U.S.

  • I Heard the Owl Call My Name by Margaret Craven
    Post . Goodreads . Preview . 133 Pages . Votes 2 . 1967 . U.S.

  • At the Sign of the Cat and Racket by Honoré de Balzac
    Post . Goodreads . Preview . 059 Pages . Votes 1 . 1829 . France

  • House Made of Dawn by N. Scott Momaday
    Post . Goodreads . Preview . 185 Pages . Votes 2 . 1968 . U.S.

  • Kintu by Jennifer Nansubuga Makumbi
    Post . Goodreads . Preview . 442 Pages . Votes 6 . 2014 . Uganda

  • Ramona by Helen Hunt Jackson
    Post . Goodreads . Preview . 340 Pages . Votes 1 . 1884 . U.S.

  • The Painted Drum by Louise Erdich
    Post . Goodreads . Preview . 277 Pages . Votes 4 . 2005 . U.S.

  • Tipperary by Frank Delaney
    Post . Goodreads . Preview . 448 Pages . Votes 4 . 2007 . Ireland, England & U.S.

  • The Mabinogion
    Post . Goodreads . Preview . 255 Pages . Votes 4 . 1410 . Wales

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Old 11-05-2020, 06:37 PM   #2
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I am suggesting books that I have read and enjoyed before, albeit long ago, and could very easily stand a reread of them. I am trying not to appear lazy . The first of those I am sure most others have read too and perhaps feel the same about it.

Adventures of Huckleberry Finn - Mark Twain
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advent...ckleberry_Finn
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...ckleberry_Finn

I Heard the Owl Call My Name - Craven, Margaret
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Hear...l_Call_My_Name
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...l_Call_My_Name

At the Sign of the Cat and Racket - Honare de Balzac
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Mai...hat-qui-pelote
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Com%C3%A9die_humaine
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...eaux_The_Purse

I Heard the Owl Call My Name I was first introduced to by friends who emigrated from British Columbia to NZ. Apparently it was very popular in Canada and despite it being a bit of a "tear jerker" I am relying on its remaining in print for over 50 years as enough to give it some literary status.

At the Sign of the Cat and Racket is the first of the big collection of Balzac novels each depicting an element of French society following the fall of Napoleon.

Adventures of Huckleberry Finn; well, in my view, an American masterpiece.

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Old 11-06-2020, 10:13 AM   #3
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Interesting nominations, AnotherCat. I will be working on mine tomorrow.
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Interesting noms! I’ve never read Huckleberry Finn. I did read Tom Sawyer a few years ago.
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Old 11-06-2020, 11:53 PM   #5
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My first nomination is House Made of Dawn by N. Scott Momaday. It sounds like an interesting look at a man home from a foreign war reconciling his heritage and ancestry with the modern mid-20th century world.

Goodreads . Preview . 185 Pages . 1968 . U.S.

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The magnificent Pulitzer Prize-winning novel of a proud stranger in his native land.

He was a young American Indian named Abel, and he lived in two worlds. One was that of his father, wedding him to the rhythm of the seasons, the harsh beauty of the land, the ecstasy of the drug called peyote. The other was the world of the twentieth century, goading him into a compulsive cycle of sexual exploits, dissipation, and disgust. Home from a foreign war, he was a man being torn apart, a man descending into hell.
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I'll also nominate Kintu by Jennifer Nansubuga Makumbi. This multi-generational story about Uganda's history and culture sounds intriguing.

Goodreads . Preview . 442 Pages . 2014 . Uganda

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In 1750, Kintu Kidda unleashes a curse that will plague his family for generations. In this ambitious tale of a clan and of a nation, Makumbi weaves together the stories of Kintu’s descendants as they seek to break from the burden of their shared past and reconcile the inheritance of tradition and the modern world that is their future.
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Old 11-07-2020, 04:41 PM   #7
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AnotherCat, I have a question about the Balzac nomination. The nomination is for At the Sign of the Cat and Racket, which alone is about 59 pages and is the first of his huge 'La Comédie Humaine' series of stories and novels.

However, the Goodreads link you provided is for a book containing three titles: At the Sign Of The Cat And Racket / The Ball At Sceaux / The Purse. In the 'La Comédie Humaine' series these are #1, #2 and #4, and total somewhere around 150 pages (#3 is a novel of over 200 pages, which I'm guessing is why it wasn't included in this collection).

Do you mean(/want) to only nominate At the Sign of the Cat and Racket, or the collection of three titles?
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I actually had in mind just At the Sign of the Cat and Racket but I was working from memory. I recalled it was not very long but not as short as it turns out to be.

I think it would be a bit messy to pile together three of the La Comédie humaine books; I am fine with just the ...Cat and Racket story by itself but if considered too short I'll hunt out something else.

While it has been a long time since I read it the first of the longer books in the series, Letters of Two Brides and it being the third, is maybe too long and involved to just be a simple vignette of an element of society?
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My first nomination is Ramona: The Heart and Conscience of Early California by Helen Hunt Jackson. Public domain (1884). I've read this book before and would enjoy re-reading it.

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My second nomination is The Painted Drum by Louis Erdich.

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From the author of the National Book Award Winner The Round House, Louise Erdrich's breathtaking, lyrical novel of a priceless Ojibwe artifact and the effect it has had on those who have come into contact with it over the years.

While appraising the estate of a New Hampshire family descended from a North Dakota Indian agent, Faye Travers is startled to discover a rare moose skin and cedar drum fashioned long ago by an Ojibwe artisan. And so begins an illuminating journey both backward and forward in time, following the strange passage of a powerful yet delicate instrument, and revealing the extraordinary lives it has touched and defined.

Compelling and unforgettable, Louise Erdrich's Painted Drum explores the often-fraught relationship between mothers and daughters, the strength of family, and the intricate rhythms of grief with all the grace, wit, and startling beauty that characterizes this acclaimed author's finest work.
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My third nomination is Tipperary by Frank Delaney. He is an Irish author famous for his integration of culture, myths and history in the style of traditional Irish storytelling.

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At the age of forty, summoned to Paris to treat his dying countryman–the infamous Oscar Wilde–Charles experiences the fateful moment of his life. In a chance encounter with a beautiful and determined young Englishwoman, eighteen-year-old April Burke, he is instantly and passionately smitten–but callously rejected. Vowing to improve himself, Charles returns to Ireland, where he undertakes the preservation of the great and abandoned estate of Tipperary, in whose shadow he has lived his whole life–and which, he discovers, may belong to April and her father.

As Charles pursues his obsession, he writes the “History” of his own life and country. While doing so, he meets the great figures of the day, including Charles Parnell, William Butler Yeats, and George Bernard Shaw. And he also falls victim to less well-known characters–who prove far more dangerous. Tipperary also features a second “historian:” a present-day commentator, a retired and obscure history teacher who suddenly discovers that he has much at stake in the telling of Charles’s story.

In this gloriously absorbing and utterly satisfying novel, a man’ s passion for the woman he loves is twinned with his country’s emergence as a nation. With storytelling as sweeping and dramatic as the land itself, myth, fact, and fiction are all woven together with the power of the great nineteenth-century novelists. Tipperary once again proves Frank Delaney’s unrivaled mastery at bringing Irish history to life.
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I actually had in mind just At the Sign of the Cat and Racket but I was working from memory. I recalled it was not very long but not as short as it turns out to be.

I think it would be a bit messy to pile together three of the La Comédie humaine books; I am fine with just the ...Cat and Racket story by itself but if considered too short I'll hunt out something else.
Nope, it’s completely fine to nominate just Cat and Racket. I just wanted to be clear on what was being nominated!
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My third nomination is Tipperary by Frank Delaney. He is an Irish author famous for his integration of culture, myths and history in the style of traditional Irish storytelling.

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Well that settles it! I couldn't decide between three for my last nomination, and one of them was Frank Delaney's Ireland so now that one's out of consideration at least.
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Nope, it’s completely fine to nominate just Cat and Racket. I just wanted to be clear on what was being nominated!
It turned out that I wasn't very clear in my own mind either .
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My last nomination is The Mabinogion. This is a collection of medieval Welsh pre-Christian Celtic mythological stories.

Goodreads . Preview . 255 Pages . 1410 . Wales

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Celtic mythology, Arthurian romance, and an intriguing interpretation of British history--these are just some of the themes embraced by the anonymous authors of the eleven tales that make up the Welsh medieval masterpiece known as the Mabinogion. They tell of Gwydion the shape-shifter, who can create a woman out of flowers; of Math the magician whose feet must lie in the lap of a virgin; of hanging a pregnant mouse and hunting a magical boar. Dragons, witches, and giants live alongside kings and heroes, and quests of honour, revenge, and love are set against the backdrop of a country struggling to retain its independence.
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