Kindle app for iPhone and iPod Touch in iTunes Store - Page 7

olddumbguy · 03-04-2009, 02:21 PM

So from reading this thread I understand I can now buy books from Amazon even though I don't own a Kindle. But will I be able to then put those books on my Sony 505? By using Calibre and a separate program, the DRM stripper? Or is there one program that will do it for me?

Thanks for the help.

shadowwolf36 · 03-04-2009, 02:23 PM

It my case, I was allowed to download it to the itouch...it does ask you what device you are using...I clicked on itouch so I am not sure if it allows you to download to computer

Robotech_Master · 03-04-2009, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by olddumbguy

So from reading this thread I understand I can now buy books from Amazon even though I don't own a Kindle. But will I be able to then put those books on my Sony 505?

No, you won't.

To strip the DRM from a Kindle book, you need to be able to transfer the file to your hard drive, and you need a Device ID.

You can transfer the file by USB from your hardware Kindle, but once it's on your iPhone it's going to stay there (unless you jailbreak it). And you can extract the Kindle's serial number to use as a Device ID for cracking Kindle books, but nobody knows how to derive the iPhone's Device ID yet.

pshrynk · 03-04-2009, 02:25 PM

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Your iPhone(s) and iPod Touch(es)

Need to register an iPhone or iPod touch? Learn How

This showed up on my Manage your Kindle page today.

TallMomof2 · 03-04-2009, 02:26 PM

shadowwolf - go to "Manage Your Kindle" under "Your Accounts" at Amazon. Scroll down the page and see what options you have for downloading your books. Even if you can download the book it still doesn't solve the problem of what the PID is.

TallMomof2 · 03-04-2009, 02:33 PM

For yucks I entered in my Touch serial number into KindlePID.py and it gave me valid looking PID. However, Amazon won't let me download a version of an ebook for the Touch but I can download versions for my Kindle. The message says to try back in 24 hours so I'll try tomorrow.

If you can download iPod versions of Kindle books to your PC with a valid PID.....

owl123 · 03-04-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TallMomof2

For yucks I entered in my Touch serial number into KindlePID.py and it gave me valid looking PID. However, Amazon won't let me download a version of an ebook for the Touch but I can download versions for my Kindle. The message says to try back in 24 hours so I'll try tomorrow.

If you can download iPod versions of Kindle books to your PC with a valid PID.....

You're right. Kindlepid.py returns a valid (?) PID. But when I try using mobiddrm01 or mobiddrm02 there's an error: "Error: invalid file format."

owl123 · 03-04-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaurnim

I suspect it will depend on the file format used for the ebook.
Topaz books (.tpz or .azw1 if I remember well) have not been liberated yet.
Masqueraded Mobipocket (.azw) could be liberated with MobiDeDRM.

I cannot guarantee what I say above, since I don't have a Kindle, but it's what I remember from discussions on MR.

When I open my Kindle sample book in Notepad, first four characters are: TPZ0. Maybe this means that it's Topaz.

EDIT: Yes, it's Topaz. I got another sample book and it seems to be MOBI (there's a BOOKMOBI string is inside the file.)

EDIT 2: The other sample book isn't DRMed.

da_jane · 03-04-2009, 03:00 PM

now we know what i luv cabbages should work on next . . ..

tlrowley · 03-04-2009, 03:18 PM

On the "Manage your Kindle" it will allow me to select "download to computer" and then it asks for which Kindle. If I select my iPhone, it won't complete the download (it says the file is unavailable (try again later)), but the file is always available for an actual Kindle.

JSWolf · 03-04-2009, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Robotech_Master

I don't know whether eReader is in trouble. But I suspect that any person and any store who relies heavily on DRM-locked Mobipocket is in trouble. Amazon is in the singular position of owning and licensing the DRM used by a considerable number of its e-book competitors. Not releasing an iPhone app that can read competitors' books may only be the first step.

http://www.teleread.org/2009/03/04/d...t-on-the-wall/

The problem is that Amazon is sending out a lot of mixed messages. They need to get their act together and sort this out and tell us what is really going on. Are they hampering Mobipocket now in favor of the Kindle version? What is their official stand on DRM? And once they (if they ever will) tell us what is really going on, they will then need to back it up with their actions. I mean we have Mobipocket saying there would be an app for the phone/touch and then rumors (that we all suspect are true) that the app was squashed by Amazon. Mobipocket has clammed up about the app and won't say a word about it. Now we have the Kindle app instead. The day someone figures out how to get the PID from the app is the day the books can possibly be liberated.

Come on Amazon, stop jerking us around and tell us what's really going on.

Moejoe · 03-04-2009, 03:36 PM

Isn't it wonderful how DRM helps all the paying customers? Meanwhile, on the other side of town, Pirates with Jailbroken Iphones download and use with little hassle or troubles.

JSWolf · 03-04-2009, 03:40 PM

But can Kindle AZW eBooks have the DRM removed if the PID is unknown?

tompe · 03-04-2009, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

The problem is that Amazon is sending out a lot of mixed messages. They need to get their act together and sort this out and tell us what is really going on.

They have said the want to emulate the success of the iPod. So they want to have a format that totally dominates the market and only are sold by them.

I think the only format that have a chance to stop them is ePub. Everything else will disappear. And they will probably soon change the awz format so that it is not compatible with MobiPocket readers.

Steven Lyle Jordan · 03-04-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tompe

They have said the want to emulate the success of the iPod. So they want to have a format that totally dominates the market and only are sold by them.

I think the only format that have a chance to stop them is ePub. Everything else will disappear. And they will probably soon change the awz format so that it is not compatible with MobiPocket readers.

Amazon can still do this, once they have captured a significant e-book market through the Kindle, by licensing apps that play on any devices, in their AWZ format.

If the Kindle is only here to generate sales and interest in e-books (a believable scenario, considering how little aesthetic work they've put in on the hardware), then Amazon can wait until the e-book market reaches critical mass, then steer it in another direction: Amazon abandons the hardware for (or supplements it with) a multi-platform software app that reads only the AWZ e-books. Everyone will buy e-books from Amazon, whether they have a Kindle or not, because they are used to going to Amazon to get them. Even ePub may not be able to break that habit.

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03-04-2009, 02:21 PM	#91
olddumbguy Member Posts: 13 Karma: 272 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SoCal, USA Device: Kindle 3, HTC EVO, iPad, Sony PRS-505, Sony PRS-700, Ipod Touch	So from reading this thread I understand I can now buy books from Amazon even though I don't own a Kindle. But will I be able to then put those books on my Sony 505? By using Calibre and a separate program, the DRM stripper? Or is there one program that will do it for me? Thanks for the help.

03-04-2009, 02:23 PM	#92
shadowwolf36 Enthusiast Posts: 42 Karma: 81 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: Sony Digital	It my case, I was allowed to download it to the itouch...it does ask you what device you are using...I clicked on itouch so I am not sure if it allows you to download to computer

03-04-2009, 02:26 PM	#95
TallMomof2 Kindlephilia Posts: 2,017 Karma: 1139255 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Snowpacolypse 2010 Device: Too many to count	shadowwolf - go to "Manage Your Kindle" under "Your Accounts" at Amazon. Scroll down the page and see what options you have for downloading your books. Even if you can download the book it still doesn't solve the problem of what the PID is.

03-04-2009, 02:33 PM	#96
TallMomof2 Kindlephilia Posts: 2,017 Karma: 1139255 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Snowpacolypse 2010 Device: Too many to count	For yucks I entered in my Touch serial number into KindlePID.py and it gave me valid looking PID. However, Amazon won't let me download a version of an ebook for the Touch but I can download versions for my Kindle. The message says to try back in 24 hours so I'll try tomorrow. If you can download iPod versions of Kindle books to your PC with a valid PID.....

03-04-2009, 03:00 PM	#99
da_jane Evangelist Posts: 405 Karma: 692 Join Date: Sep 2006 Device: Samsung Galaxy Note 3 \| Kindle Paperwhite \| iPad Mini	now we know what i luv cabbages should work on next . . ..

03-04-2009, 03:18 PM	#100
tlrowley Quilt Geek Posts: 472 Karma: 91775 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lancaster, PA Device: Kindle	On the "Manage your Kindle" it will allow me to select "download to computer" and then it asks for which Kindle. If I select my iPhone, it won't complete the download (it says the file is unavailable (try again later)), but the file is always available for an actual Kindle.

03-04-2009, 03:36 PM	#102
Moejoe Banned Posts: 5,100 Karma: 72193 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South of the Border Device: Coffin	Isn't it wonderful how DRM helps all the paying customers? Meanwhile, on the other side of town, Pirates with Jailbroken Iphones download and use with little hassle or troubles.

03-04-2009, 03:40 PM	#103
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,897 Karma: 128597114 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	But can Kindle AZW eBooks have the DRM removed if the PID is unknown?

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