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Old 01-01-2018, 01:18 AM   #1
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Question Honey I shrank the book !
Somehow i messed up a sigil edit ,and an entire book, as rendered within moon reader was so shrunk that an entire chapter fitted into one page. Really really miniscule text for everything, including the chapter titles.
I am curious as to what fat finger move caused this. It rendered ok in ade, and in book view, and the original epub was ok in both ade and moon reader.
I somehow fixed it by repeating a modify epub in calibre so I do longer have the damaged version for a post mortem.
But can anyone suggest what can cause the whole book to shrink. I wonder if moon treats a value of 1, no unit given, as 1 pixel.
But all styles seemed equally affected so maybe some other glitch.
All I know, and why I post here, is that I somehow did the damage with the Sigil editor. I just like to know how I managed that
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Old 01-01-2018, 02:27 AM   #2
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One of the few things I can imagine, is that you somehow changed your stylesheet.
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Old 01-01-2018, 03:13 AM   #3
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One of the few things I can imagine, is that you somehow changed your stylesheet.
i did tweak the style sheet - yes.
but i checked these obvious suspects and they looked ok
each chapter begins with a body and then a div around everything...
e.g.
<body id="x9780062368720-2" class="calibre">
<div class="calibre1">

and calibre1 was just
display: block;

maybe something else in the sheet invalidated them somehow
or maybe moon did not like the absence of a font size in the calibre1 div
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Old 01-01-2018, 10:55 AM   #4
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I somehow fixed it by repeating a modify epub in calibre so I do longer have the damaged version for a post mortem.
If you REPEATED a calibre edit, does that mean that calibre had entered the build earlier?
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Old 01-01-2018, 11:02 AM   #5
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i had used my usual workflow-
1)epub to epub in calibre to apply my standard preferences ( like strip out font families... set widows & orphans.. via extra CSS) , and to create an original_epub backup in case of disaster at step 2
2) a manual edit in sigil to fine tune it e.g. remove unwanted front and back of book stuff, for simple personal reading, remove dropcaps... - that's is where it somehow went miniscule
ok - it is just possible that step 1 did the damage ( as the "shrinkage" only showed up when rendered in moon+ - it looked fine in Sigil book view throughout ) but it's never gone wrong like that for me before

the question is probably better asked in reverse, if you wanted to shrink ALL of an epub to postage stamp size, when tweaks would you apply ?
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Old 01-01-2018, 02:14 PM   #6
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Post the settings you use in the calibre Modify plugin.

I use a similar process as yourself, never had this problem, but I don't use Moon reader, currently using EBookDroid.

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Old 01-01-2018, 06:28 PM   #7
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I wonder if moon treats a value of 1, no unit given, as 1 pixel.
That sounds like a reasonable guess to me, especially if you accidentally set body {font-size:1; ...} when you intended to type body {font-size:1em; ...}.

It should be easy enough to test.
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Old 01-01-2018, 06:30 PM   #8
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My suggestion is to start over.
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Old 01-02-2018, 01:45 AM   #9
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That sounds like a reasonable guess to me, especially if you accidentally set body {font-size:1; ...} when you intended to type body {font-size:1em; ...}.

It should be easy enough to test.
next time i do a book I will try for the same mistake, deliberately
easy as you say but slow as I cannot test on PC because it looks ok in sigl/ade: I have to get the book onto the tablet ( via calibre & CC ) to see how it looks in moon

as for the earlier modify epub question: i have it coonfigured to remove spans, remove any adobe stuff , update metadata, fix up TOC, update cover.

mainly i use it for auto-fixing the TOC if I have removed any unwanted pages like "also by" or "sneak previews "

starting over would have been the next step ( having checked that original_epub was OK) had the issue not mysteriously gone away again
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Why are you converting ePub > ePub when you can just make a copy of the original ePub and edit that?
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already explained. the initial epub to epub automates some routine things that i want done to publishers layout in every book, and creates an original_epub backup, which is useful in cases like this !
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already explained. the initial epub to epub automates some routine things that i want done to publishers layout in every book, and creates an original_epub backup, which is useful in cases like this !
Your plan is flawed because HOW publishers (minions) code always needs to be considered on a book, by book basis. Because the same Publisher uses different minions. Some of those do not have a clue on how to use the 'house' stylesheet. They find the first style for a 'look' and use it throughout the book instead of using .preface for the Preface, .fm for front matter

I've seen p tags styled with .758em, 18pt , giant line-space (not 1.2).

Calibre conversions go for results (scale), not the cleanest of code. This is why a lot of us prefer edits vs same fmt Conversions.

Why the push to fully automate, when you can't read more than 1 book at a time
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Your plan is flawed because HOW publishers (minions) code always needs to be considered on a book, by book basis. Because the same Publisher uses different minions. Some of those do not have a clue on how to use the 'house' stylesheet. They find the first style for a 'look' and use it throughout the book instead of using .preface for the Preface, .fm for front matter

I've seen p tags styled with .758em, 18pt , giant line-space (not 1.2).

Calibre conversions go for results (scale), not the cleanest of code. This is why a lot of us prefer edits vs same fmt Conversions.

Why the push to fully automate, when you can't read more than 1 book at a time
Sometimes when you remove all of the unused CSS styles, you are left with a smallish amount of styles. That then makes it easy to edit. I go through the styes and removes things like left justify, line-height, and anything else I don't want. The thing is, by editing instead of converting, you learn how these publishers do things. It becomes easier to edit and you learn more.

I say go for editing. Converting is not a good idea unless you have to and in this case, you don't have to.
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Your plan is flawed ...

Why the push to fully automate, when you can't read more than 1 book at a time
laziness, convenience.. it is tedious to type the same stuff over and over again

so in calibre conversions
my extra css is

body {adobe-hyphenate: none;}
body {text-align: justify;}
body {orphans: 1; widows: 1}

once all that is done for me by a calibre convert , I move on to any book by book tweaks ... knowing also that I how have an original_epub backup
just personal preferences
also, because I am used to it, I can find my way around a a calibre-ised stylesheet faster than some over complicated publisher ones !
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