Sigil vs InDesign - Page 2

stevej46 · 09-11-2011, 10:44 AM

I have been successful using sigil as an editor. It helps me fix minor problems with my original ODT (openoffice) file after I have converted it to an ePub.

I create my TOC in Sigil. I do my page breaks in Sigil. I also fix the date in Sigil.

I find that after I do my page breaks, the first heading says heading_id_2. I have to fix it so my page breaks are in order and beginning with heading_id_1. Also the dc-date has to be corrected to the right format just as it did when I used InDesign.

Once I've finished my editing in Sigil, I clean it up once more in Calibre. I run a final ePub to ePub conversion. Once done, it passes ePubChecker.

So far, so good.

rplantz · 09-16-2011, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by frabjous

I certainly don't think InDesign is the proper tool for ePub creation. Personally, I just write the (X)HTML in vim, or else write in LaTeX (again in vim) and convert to (X)HTML, hand-write the XML, and zip it up myself. But I'm a control freak.

Sorry for being a little off topic here, but how do you convert from LaTeX to (X)HTML? None of the converters I've tried will make it all the way through my book (which is written in LaTeX).

frabjous · 09-16-2011, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by rplantz

Sorry for being a little off topic here, but how do you convert from LaTeX to (X)HTML? None of the converters I've tried will make it all the way through my book (which is written in LaTeX).

Personally I do it with a custom-made sed script. Whether this would work for you I guess would depend on how complex your book is.

pietvo · 09-18-2011, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by rplantz

Sorry for being a little off topic here, but how do you convert from LaTeX to (X)HTML? None of the converters I've tried will make it all the way through my book (which is written in LaTeX).

Have you tried tex4ht?

rplantz · 09-18-2011, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by pietvo

Have you tried tex4ht?

Yes, the LaTeX I use is much too complex for tex4ht. It dies in the middle of the second chapter.

pietvo · 09-19-2011, 02:46 AM

Then you would have to customize tex4ht, which isn't a trivial task.

EowynCarter · 09-19-2011, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by stevej46

I have been successful using sigil as an editor. It helps me fix minor problems with my original ODT (openoffice) file after I have converted it to an ePub.

I create my TOC in Sigil. I do my page breaks in Sigil. I also fix the date in Sigil.

I find that after I do my page breaks, the first heading says heading_id_2. I have to fix it so my page breaks are in order and beginning with heading_id_1. Also the dc-date has to be corrected to the right format just as it did when I used InDesign.

Once I've finished my editing in Sigil, I clean it up once more in Calibre. I run a final ePub to ePub conversion. Once done, it passes ePubChecker.

So far, so good.

You clean it up with calibre ??
I spent much time using sgil to fix calibre crappy code.

Toxaris · 09-21-2011, 01:43 PM

I agree, Calibre is good enough to convert from one format to another but not ePUB to ePUB. It adds a lot of code which is not really necessary.

Steven Lyle Jordan · 09-21-2011, 01:53 PM

I've used Sigil since it came out, to create my ePub files. I generally use an original Word file, manually cut and paste that into an HTML page (a Dreamweaver view mode box), and then paste that HTML into Sigil. What I like about it is its ease of creating a book, and its compliance. Sigil is the first program I'd recommend to most book creators, especially if they can work with their own HTML files.

uieluck · 11-02-2011, 03:36 PM

I would love to use a simpler program, however I use a combination: Sigil and InDesign 5.5. My employer creates 200+ page books with intricate styling, layouts, images, sidebars, chapter breaks etc. not to mention a lengthy TOC. So to take a book that was already made with the 'book' feature in InDesign and to use something else would be backwards. Not to mention PROOFING. Before I work in Sigil, I do a simplification of 'styles' in the InDesign doc. "strip" a lot of crap out. Then output it and work in Sigil from there... Hell, sometimes I even work in Oxygen/Author.

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09-11-2011, 10:44 AM	#16
stevej46 Member Posts: 15 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Centennial, Colorado Device: iPad	I have been successful using sigil as an editor. It helps me fix minor problems with my original ODT (openoffice) file after I have converted it to an ePub. I create my TOC in Sigil. I do my page breaks in Sigil. I also fix the date in Sigil. I find that after I do my page breaks, the first heading says heading_id_2. I have to fix it so my page breaks are in order and beginning with heading_id_1. Also the dc-date has to be corrected to the right format just as it did when I used InDesign. Once I've finished my editing in Sigil, I clean it up once more in Calibre. I run a final ePub to ePub conversion. Once done, it passes ePubChecker. So far, so good.

09-19-2011, 02:46 AM	#21
pietvo Reader Posts: 519 Karma: 24612 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Utrecht, NL Device: Kobo Aura 2, iPhone, iPad	Then you would have to customize tex4ht, which isn't a trivial task.

09-21-2011, 01:43 PM	#23
Toxaris Wizard Posts: 4,520 Karma: 121692313 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Heemskerk, NL Device: PRS-T1, Kobo Touch, Kobo Aura	I agree, Calibre is good enough to convert from one format to another but not ePUB to ePUB. It adds a lot of code which is not really necessary.

09-21-2011, 01:53 PM	#24
Steven Lyle Jordan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 8,478 Karma: 5171130 Join Date: Jan 2006 Device: none	I've used Sigil since it came out, to create my ePub files. I generally use an original Word file, manually cut and paste that into an HTML page (a Dreamweaver view mode box), and then paste that HTML into Sigil. What I like about it is its ease of creating a book, and its compliance. Sigil is the first program I'd recommend to most book creators, especially if they can work with their own HTML files.

11-02-2011, 03:36 PM	#25
uieluck Connoisseur Posts: 52 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Denver, Colorado Device: iphone, ipad, kindle, nook	I would love to use a simpler program, however I use a combination: Sigil and InDesign 5.5. My employer creates 200+ page books with intricate styling, layouts, images, sidebars, chapter breaks etc. not to mention a lengthy TOC. So to take a book that was already made with the 'book' feature in InDesign and to use something else would be backwards. Not to mention PROOFING. Before I work in Sigil, I do a simplification of 'styles' in the InDesign doc. "strip" a lot of crap out. Then output it and work in Sigil from there... Hell, sometimes I even work in Oxygen/Author.

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