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I mean, if you're only a stickler for semantic detail under this one particular "reading" scenario, then your whole "listening isn't—by definition—reading" objection sort of falls apart. Unless you're equally willing to oppose all usage of the word "reading" that doesn't involve eyeballs perusing written language (with comprehension), then what you're really saying is "I get to decide when saying 'reading' doesn't really have to mean 'reading'." Last edited by DiapDealer; 11-01-2017 at 01:13 PM. |
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11-01-2017, 02:03 PM | #108 | |
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11-01-2017, 03:19 PM | #109 |
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Crich, a MOVIE is an interpretation of a book. So it is completely apples and celery. An unabridged audiobook and a book are the same words at least. So apples and applesauce.
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Basically, it's a void of the English language being filled by the more precise term (reading) often related to a different sense (sight) rather than the less precise and more generic term (listening) related to the same sense (hearing). It is also backed up by other valid aural uses of the word 'reading', and in fact they (the prior uses and this use in regards to audiobooks) probably have the same root cause of using 'reading' in an aural context- to better differentiate that the information is being comprehended on a higher level. Of course, one could just say 'listening to an audiobook' and would be understood, but despite any vigorous protestations to the contrary, 'listening' gives a less precise and less estimable connotation than 'reading'. I think any objections to the thought of 'reading an audiobook' are mostly because of the newness of this usage (and therefore it can sound odd or awkward at first) and a bit of linguistic 'drawing lines in sand', but language is ever-evolving and we've offered very sound reasons in this thread for 'reading an audiobook' being as proper as 'listening to an audiobook', and more precise. Personally, I still may use either one as I see fit, but I prefer the choice rather than feeling like I should have to say one. |
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Well see now you're moving the goal-posts. Of course the interpretation is your own (though I don't see how having an intermediary reader would preclude a listener from interpreting the words they're hearing any way they see fit also—provided the narrator isn't "ad-libbing" of course) when reading the book to yourself. But you were likening your own reading to creating a performance. That seems a bit of a reach to me.
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Now I will say that the railroad would appreciate it if more people would actively listen when planning to go over the track. That is the only example I can come up with for listening being an action. |
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Excellent argument, the only slight problem I have with it is that exactly the same reasoning can be used for "reading a movie (or play)". I'd agree that a more precise term may be of use, although most stories throughout the ages have been narrated, so the term you're looking for should predate reading, not follow it. Obviously, use whatever you want, me and HarryT tend to be finicky about language and once spent about 3 days arguing about whether or not Welsh was phonetic (we eventually decided we had different definitions of phonetic) |
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