02-15-2008, 12:18 PM | #1 |
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EU artists to collect royalties for 95 years
European internal market commissioner Charlie McCreevy today announced his intention to propose to the College that the term of copyright protection for European performers be increased from 50 to 95 years. Summarising the main thrust of the proposal, Commissioner McCreevy stated: "I strongly believe that copyright protection for Europe's performers represents a moral right to control the use of their work and earn a living from their performances. I have not seen a convincing reason why a composer of music should benefit from a term of copyright which extends to the composer's life and 70 years beyond, while the performer should only enjoy 50 years, often not even covering his lifetime It is the performer who gives life to the composition and while most of us have no idea who wrote our favourite song – we can usually name the performer."
On the same day that the commission announced its intention to boost artists incomes from royalties, it also said it would have another look at the levies applied to blank compact discs, cassettes, hard drives, printers and other equipment used to copy artists' works. (Via Europa and EU Observer.) |
02-17-2008, 02:15 AM | #2 |
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Sounds like governments protecting corporate interests. I am sure the "artists rights" were an afterthought, as were the public's best interests.
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02-17-2008, 02:18 AM | #3 |
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This is an extremely misleading thread title. This is a proposal, not a "done deal" and would need to be implemented in national law by each of the 26 member states of the EU separately. The UK has already rejected a proposal to increase the duration of performance copyrights.
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02-17-2008, 04:02 AM | #4 |
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Surprise, surprise... the EU wants "levies applied to blank compact discs, cassettes, hard drives, printers and other equipment used to copy artists' works." What a great idea! Let's tax the shit out of companies that provide products with completely legal uses. After all, people don't commit crimes, companies commit crimes! Right? The economic genius of the EU always astounds me. They're so damn wise! Why, I want to move to Europe right now just so I can pay more for all my products, too. What an exciting prospect. Why haven't we ever thought of this? It's not like unwarrented taxes have ever started a revolution or anything.
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Eg, at the moment, a levy is applies to CD-R Audio discs - the type used by HiFi CD recorders. They are about double the cost of normal CD-Rs for that reason. You seem very cynical about this, Matt; may I ask why? |
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02-17-2008, 06:58 PM | #8 |
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I think we are starting to see the implications of the EU move for "harmonization" of copyrights. Question, Harry, if this proposal is implemented, would this not be an incentive for the UK to re-approach the
performance length laws that were voted down in Parliment in the name of compliance with EU directives? I expect more of these proposals to be released over the next few months, affecting most other aspects of copyright law in the EU. Once again, I smell a Mouse (the animated kind). Follow the money...... |
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A couple of examples where EU "interference" has been a good thing for consumers is the mobile phone business (where all the operators had ludicrously high "roaming" charges between EU countries), and the motor industry (where all the manufacturers were engaged in an illegal cartel to artificially fix prices). EU involvement has resulted in massive cuts in roaming charges for mobile phone users, and real competition in the motor industry's pricing - all good for the consumer. Some things I don't agree with, however; I agree with you that Microsoft are being punished for their own success - but hasn't something similar happened in the US too? The Northern Rock business is a tricky one. Yes, one might argue that they got themselves into trouble through dubious investments, but they are a major bank with some US$200bn of assets. London is one of the world's major financial centres; if investors had doubts that money placed with a UK bank was "safe", it could seriously damage the reputation of the City of London as a banking centre; I think the government had no choice but to intervene, exceptional though it is to do so. NR was the first UK bank to experience a "run" in over a century. |
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Those licensing agreements, in turn, forced retailers to remove other companies' software from a Windows-running PC, regardless of whether customers wanted it or not, stifling honest competition. Microsoft was found guilty of deliberately restricting fair competition, but they essentially bought off the DoJ to avoid massive fines and other punishments. Most of us an America wish the EU well in kicking Microsoft's a$$. |
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02-19-2008, 08:45 PM | #12 |
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Steve, I have to disagree. How many performer have total control over their historical performances, and do direct licensing? Very, very, few. (The Rolling Stones (post 1971) is the only one that comes to mind). In most cases, the performers receive a low royalty percentage, with the company retaining the majority of the gross. So who is actually getting protected? The performer is the poster child, (protect the artist...they need it!) but who gets the majority of the money? I'll bet the artists acting as lobbyists are subsidized, by the corporations holding the rights control, just like a concert tour. As I keep saying, follow the money... (Remember, a cynic is a surly blackguard who insists on see the world as it is, rather that as it should be.)
Now perhaps I should use EMI (or Warner Music) as the causitive corporations to complain about, but the Mouse House has had such a long history of being at the lobbying forefront of every kind of copyright extension, I felt it wouldn't be libelous to ascribe the credit to it. All copyright extension legislation has been lobbied for of, by, and for corporations holding rights control. Their fiduicary responsibility requires them to. They cannot abandon a revenue stream for their shareholder, and the long term public good be damned. But copyright was always created as being a limited wasting asset. I refuse to watch the frog get boiled slowly. Public domain is the patrimony of the whole human race, not a legal accident to be erased a bit at a time in the name of a legal fiction's bottom line. |
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Steve, I have to disagree. How many performer have total control over their historical performances, and do direct licensing? Very, very, few. (The
Rolling Stones (post 1971) is the only one that comes to mind). In most cases, the performers receive a low royalty percentage, with the company retaining the majority of the gross. So who is actually getting protected? The performer is the poster child, (protect the artist...they need it!) but who gets the majority of the money? I'll bet the artists acting as lobbyists are subsidized, by the corporations holding the rights control, just like a concert tour. As I keep saying, follow the money... (Remember, a cynic is a surly blackguard who insists on see the world as it is, rather that as it should be.) Now perhaps I should use EMI (or Warner Music) as the causitive corporations to complain about, but the Mouse House has had such a long history of being at the lobbying forefront of every kind of copyright extension, I felt it wouldn't be libelous to ascribe the credit to it. All copyright extension legislation has been lobbied for of, by, and for corporations holding rights control. Their fiduicary responsibility requires them to. They cannot abandon a revenue stream for their shareholder, and the long term public good be damned. But copyright was always created as being a limited wasting asset. I refuse to watch the frog get boiled slowly. Public domain is the patrimony of the whole human race, not a legal accident to be erased a bit at a time in the name of a legal fiction's bottom line. |
02-19-2008, 09:54 PM | #14 |
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This isn't about (let's just say it) Disney retaining rights. This is about the performers retaining rights. If Disney gets a cut, it's because that's the contract the performer negotiated, to sign their rights away in return for fame, paid for by Disney.
That doesn't change the fact that the law is intended to protect the performer, not the corporation. Until I see details that clearly indicate otherwise, I'm not going to rain on the parade. And we've had the debate about the value of copyright before, I'm not going to get into that. |
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