large pdf files with many figures

jakeluck · 09-27-2006, 04:40 PM

has anyone tried LARGE pdf files, e.g some of the user manuals

12 MB DVD Studio Pro User Manual
42 MB Final Cut Pro User Manual

what are your experiences in large files with alot of figures?
thanks.

NatCh · 09-27-2006, 04:57 PM

Um, I didn't, but I think Bob mentioned he had a complicated PDF with him that day.

You may have to wait 'til they start arriving at people's homes. And 'til the euphoria wears off.

jakeluck · 09-27-2006, 05:00 PM

haha, indeed. i am about to go to the sony corporate store on east 55th street to see if they have them on display.

scotty1024 · 09-27-2006, 05:29 PM

Large files are a weakness on the Librie. I hope they fixed this on the Reader, along with a whole shopping list of other BBeB issues...

For example, I noticed on the book store last night that many titles were noticeably bloated compared to other ebook formats.

BBeB you usually get sentence/format unit level compression.
PDF you usually get page compression.
LIT you get whole book compression.

Don't worry, I have many 150MB to 300MB PDF files I'll run on the Reader the day I get it. Euphoria won't keep me from reporting back.

Paul Moews · 10-01-2006, 05:27 PM

I was asked to contribute to this thread by taking pictures of
two fairly large manuals - a DVD Studio Pro User Manual (12 M) -
and the Final Cut Pro User Manual (42 M). This are rather elegant
manuals - page size is 7.5 x 9 inches but I suppose meant
mostly to be viewed at a terminal. They zoom all the way
to 400% while maintaining their crisp look.

They loaded OK from a SD card to the Sony reader, and page turning
was reasonable once opened. The larger could take up to 45 seconds
or so to load and maybe 30 seconds or so to exit - I suppose the closing
time was caused by the updates to cache.xml. On the Sony reader the
pages looked "washed out", i.e. type seemed less than black, but of course
the type size was very small. In landscape view they could at least be read
but they were still washed out. They might load quicker once the cache
is updated. Not quite good enough to be useful but almost. Note that
they are apparently ver 1.5 PDF's not necessarily supported by Sony.

I did two pages - 443 of the DVD Manual and 1040 of the Final Cut
Manual (Page III-253 - absolute page 1040). For comparison I also loaded
page 1040 to the Iliad. The Iliad does not yet have a landscape mode.
However the display is larger and it handles big PDB's without difficulty.
The page is also washed out on the Iliad but not as badly. It's
readable but small - tantalizing close to being really useful.
The Sony reader pictures show both portrait and landscape views - the
two landscape views are combined.

The pictures are fairly high resolution jpegs - 200 - 300 K taken outdoors
in full sun - Not too big I hope. By the way none of the pages I looked at
caused trouble - all viewed OK. Note the highlighted line on page 443.
This is an active link on the Sony - links are not implemented on the Iliad.

jakeluck · 10-01-2006, 07:23 PM

Paul,

Thank you so much for the photos! That gives us a much better idea of Sony's usability with real world full manuals. The Illiad indeed looks more promising because of its increased resolution.

jake

NatCh · 10-01-2006, 10:12 PM

The resolution is the same (~160 dpi), it's the size that makes the difference. And it does make a difference for that.

segatang · 10-03-2006, 05:14 AM

It seems the Sony Reader uses a lighter font to display the smaller fonts, but the iLiad uses a bold one as Librie does. Right?

Or just the resolution difference between Sony Reader and iLiad caused that?

Kosst Amojan · 10-03-2006, 09:37 AM

It's the size difference, I tried to display a pdf like that and the smaller the text is the lighter it looks. Your best bet is to rotate the pdf.

09-27-2006, 04:40 PM	#1
jakeluck Groupie Posts: 193 Karma: 3252 Join Date: Dec 2004	large pdf files with many figures has anyone tried LARGE pdf files, e.g some of the user manuals 12 MB DVD Studio Pro User Manual 42 MB Final Cut Pro User Manual what are your experiences in large files with alot of figures? thanks.

10-01-2006, 05:27 PM	#5
Paul Moews Enthusiast Posts: 32 Karma: 12 Join Date: Jul 2006	pictures of large manual pages I was asked to contribute to this thread by taking pictures of two fairly large manuals - a DVD Studio Pro User Manual (12 M) - and the Final Cut Pro User Manual (42 M). This are rather elegant manuals - page size is 7.5 x 9 inches but I suppose meant mostly to be viewed at a terminal. They zoom all the way to 400% while maintaining their crisp look. They loaded OK from a SD card to the Sony reader, and page turning was reasonable once opened. The larger could take up to 45 seconds or so to load and maybe 30 seconds or so to exit - I suppose the closing time was caused by the updates to cache.xml. On the Sony reader the pages looked "washed out", i.e. type seemed less than black, but of course the type size was very small. In landscape view they could at least be read but they were still washed out. They might load quicker once the cache is updated. Not quite good enough to be useful but almost. Note that they are apparently ver 1.5 PDF's not necessarily supported by Sony. I did two pages - 443 of the DVD Manual and 1040 of the Final Cut Manual (Page III-253 - absolute page 1040). For comparison I also loaded page 1040 to the Iliad. The Iliad does not yet have a landscape mode. However the display is larger and it handles big PDB's without difficulty. The page is also washed out on the Iliad but not as badly. It's readable but small - tantalizing close to being really useful. The Sony reader pictures show both portrait and landscape views - the two landscape views are combined. The pictures are fairly high resolution jpegs - 200 - 300 K taken outdoors in full sun - Not too big I hope. By the way none of the pages I looked at caused trouble - all viewed OK. Note the highlighted line on page 443. This is an active link on the Sony - links are not implemented on the Iliad. Attached Thumbnails

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Best option for reading large pdf files?	eanach1	PDF	6	01-12-2010 01:55 AM
Which e-book reader can read large PDF files?	cchen926	Which one should I buy?	5	12-06-2009 04:39 AM
DX performance on large (>100MB) pdf files?	Blackguard	Amazon Kindle	6	06-16-2009 06:57 PM
Reading large PDF files	the_apotheosis	iRex	6	12-06-2007 11:46 AM
Large PDF Files	Almagne	iRex	3	01-17-2007 11:27 AM

09-27-2006, 04:57 PM	#2
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	Um, I didn't, but I think Bob mentioned he had a complicated PDF with him that day. You may have to wait 'til they start arriving at people's homes. And 'til the euphoria wears off.

09-27-2006, 05:00 PM	#3
jakeluck Groupie Posts: 193 Karma: 3252 Join Date: Dec 2004	haha, indeed. i am about to go to the sony corporate store on east 55th street to see if they have them on display.

09-27-2006, 05:29 PM	#4
scotty1024 Banned Posts: 1,300 Karma: 1479 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Peoples Republic of Washington Device: Reader / iPhone / Librie / Kindle	Large files are a weakness on the Librie. I hope they fixed this on the Reader, along with a whole shopping list of other BBeB issues... For example, I noticed on the book store last night that many titles were noticeably bloated compared to other ebook formats. BBeB you usually get sentence/format unit level compression. PDF you usually get page compression. LIT you get whole book compression. Don't worry, I have many 150MB to 300MB PDF files I'll run on the Reader the day I get it. Euphoria won't keep me from reporting back.

10-01-2006, 07:23 PM	#6
jakeluck Groupie Posts: 193 Karma: 3252 Join Date: Dec 2004	Paul, Thank you so much for the photos! That gives us a much better idea of Sony's usability with real world full manuals. The Illiad indeed looks more promising because of its increased resolution. jake

10-01-2006, 10:12 PM	#7
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	The resolution is the same (~160 dpi), it's the size that makes the difference. And it does make a difference for that.

10-03-2006, 05:14 AM	#8
segatang Connoisseur Posts: 98 Karma: 81 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Taiwan Device: Kolin i-library	It seems the Sony Reader uses a lighter font to display the smaller fonts, but the iLiad uses a bold one as Librie does. Right? Or just the resolution difference between Sony Reader and iLiad caused that?

10-03-2006, 09:37 AM	#9
Kosst Amojan Addict Posts: 207 Karma: 19597 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Northern Virginia Device: Nook Glowlight Plus	It's the size difference, I tried to display a pdf like that and the smaller the text is the lighter it looks. Your best bet is to rotate the pdf.

Advert

Advert