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08-23-2014, 01:32 PM | #588 |
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08-23-2014, 03:41 PM | #590 |
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They don't seem to care how much Amazon discounts their "bread & butter" (hardcovers by their own admission). They only care that cheap ebooks make their bread & butter look less attractive to consumers. And rather than actually come up with a REAL plan for the eventual--and inevitable--demise of their current business model, they'd rather stall by inflating the price of ebooks in hopes that someone--anyone--comes along, slays the dragon for them, and allows them to eke out a little more time with their outdated business model and bloated infrastructure (which is still doomed even if Amazon closes its doors tomorrow). Last edited by DiapDealer; 08-23-2014 at 05:28 PM. |
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http://www.authorsolutions.com/Default.aspx Questions: 1. Of the hundreds of US publishers, are there any which you do think have a "REAL plan?" And can you name for me your favorite book, not self-published (since you say you want big publishers to survive) which was improved by said plan? 2. What is is that you most fear if the big publishers are doomed to withdrawal from the US, or other, markets due to not having followed your advice? Economic harm to New York City? Lack of up-front advances to fund book research? Anything else? P.S. Last night I finished this Hachette page-turner that's somewhat relevant to this debate: Factory Man: How One Furniture Maker Battled Offshoring, Stayed Local - and Helped Save an American Town The lesson may be that when almost everyone is saying that the old business model is totally broken, and needs to be thrown onto a slow boat to you know where, sometimes all the old model needs is some tweaking, and a relentless focus on quality. Last edited by SteveEisenberg; 08-23-2014 at 07:13 PM. |
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I know "it costs money to produce ebooks" too, but many of those costs are shared with its hardcover counterpart's production costs. A hardcover + ebook doesn't cost twice as much to produce as a hardcover alone. They'd be wise to research ways to bring down the costs of producing ebooks even more. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that a standard fiction ebook could basically be a byproduct of the "let's make a pbook" process. And then the money spent on research, marketing, PR, editing, proofing, etc... won't care if you buy the ebook or the pbook. Just stop fighting so hard to only make money a certain way--the old way. And stop trying to shove ebooks into pbook-shaped holes. |
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08-24-2014, 05:57 AM | #596 | |
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It works -- for ebooks -- exactly the same way with traditional publishers. pBooks work on a completely different model (the wholesale model) not only for historical reasons but because there is a physical product. Publishers determine how many copies to print based on the number of copies ordered by retailers. If Amazon thinks it can sell 20 copies it orders 20 copies and pays for those 20 copies and the publisher prints those 20 copies and sends them to Amazon. Of course, in pbooks publishers print more copies than are ordered by retailers. But the number that is printed is initially based on the number ordered by retailers, which is why the preorder button is such a big deal for pbooks, but not for ebooks. |
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I grant that in reality money doesn't go from hand to hand and that it is an accounting matter, but when Amazon gets 20 copies of Hachette pbook, it shows on Amazon's account books as a debit. Eventually Amazon does exchange the cash, but because Amazon is on the accrual method and not cash basis, the debit is the same, in practical terms, as paying immediately. The terms are usually 90 days (although that may have changed since I was last involved in these matters), which is why bookstores would go through their inventory at the end of 90 days and return unsold copies for a credit against the debit. When the credit is issued, a check is issued for the balance owed. But all along the store's accounting books show that the store owes the publisher for the full number of copies "bought". It is just like buying something using a credit card. Until the invoice comes due, you owe for what you have bought -- it is a debit pending payment or credit for a return. But you have "bought" the item in the interim. |
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Amazon is not in a race to the bottom; on the contrary, they believe in minimum price points. Amazon sells and markets specific books, not "parts is parts". They have spent a lot of money investing in a system to figure out which specific books people want. If the consumer wants a fork, Amazon doesn't want to futilely try selling them a spoon. Speaking as a consumer interested in the future of books as a quality product, I call FUD. |
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Agency can involve any price point, even ones far lower than you dream of. Agency has nothing whatsoever to do with how reasonable prices are. Lack of competition does. (Agency does happen to be unreasonable too, but that has nothing to do with prices either.) |
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Oh I don't know, I've managed to confuse Amazon so badly on my account that they recommend all kinds of weird stuff to me that I'm not remotely interested in.
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