There is no copyright - Page 2

carld · 05-13-2011, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by leebase

History has proven that copyright actually stymies book creation. There hasn't been a single worthwhile book created since the advent of the copyright.

Lee

That's just utter nonsense.

Wait, I get it. This is a parody thread, right?

spellbanisher · 05-13-2011, 02:40 PM

I think people in this thread need to turn on their sarcasm radars.

apbschmitz · 05-13-2011, 02:43 PM

Okay, this is from the perspective of someone who has made a living from writing for the past 35 years. Why is this conversation limited to intellectual property? To extend the logic a bit, why shouldn't all property be open to all takers? I suppose I'd be happy enough to give away what I make if I could take everything else I need. Is that part of the deal?

pilotbob · 05-13-2011, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apbschmitz

Okay, this is from the perspective of someone who has made a living from writing for the past 35 years. Why is this conversation limited to intellectual property? To extend the logic a bit, why shouldn't all property be open to all takers? I suppose I'd be happy enough to give away what I make if I could take everything else I need. Is that part of the deal?

Isn't that why communism failed? Everyone owns everything so no one creates anything?

BOb

spellbanisher · 05-13-2011, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilotbob

Isn't that why communism failed? Everyone owns everything so no one creates anything?

BOb

In communism, the single party owned everything. That is not the same as saying everyone owned everything.

carld · 05-13-2011, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spellbanisher

I think people in this thread need to turn on their sarcasm radars.

That's what I thought at the beginning, then I thought ... wait he's serious? Then I realized that no, he's not really serious.

pilotbob · 05-13-2011, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carld

That's what I thought at the beginning, then I thought ... wait he's serious? Then I realized that no, he's not really serious.

so the purpose of this thread is what? To poke fun at another member that feels there should be no copyright?

If that is the case I will be happy to remove it. Personal attacks, direct, indirect, publicly posted or in PMs are not allowed or tolerated here.

BOb

jgaiser · 05-13-2011, 02:52 PM

Yep... Just Lee poking with a stick..

carld · 05-13-2011, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilotbob

so the purpose of this thread is what? To poke fun at another member that feels there should be no copyright?

If that is the case I will be happy to remove it. Personal attacks, direct, indirect, publicly posted or in PMs are not allowed or tolerated here.

BOb

Yeah, I'm thinking that's probably the case. But, I'm not the thread author, maybe he's serious.

HarryT · 05-13-2011, 02:52 PM

JSWolf · 05-13-2011, 02:53 PM

The is pure fantasy. Can we please get this thread closed and the OP committed?

leebase · 05-13-2011, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilotbob

Seriously? How do you earn your living? Does someone pay you for your production? Would you continue doing the work for their benefit if you weren't paid.

BOb

Well, I admit I'm a greedy capitalist b@stard. I'm self interested and consider profit a virtue. So no, I'm not going to be creating any such types of work for the good of mankind.

But I'm sure that a legion of other people will continue to expend their energies so that I continue to be both entertained and enlightened.

For proof -- well, look at all the bloggers who put their thoughts on the internet for free.

Lee

leebase · 05-13-2011, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Sorry, but that statement proves that you're just being silly.

If you honestly believe that no worthwhile books have been written since the 17th century, we really have no more to discuss.

I'm just carrying on that side of the debate until the real anarchists and communists step up to the plate and carry their fair share of this debate.

Lee

leebase · 05-13-2011, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by carld

As for authors, are Stephen King or Dean Koontz or any other big name author going to keep writing when they can no longer make a living at it? A few will, as will some musicians, but like I said, most will abandon creative work and look for something that actually affords them a living.

We'll be well rid of such greedy societal leeches. In their place an army awaits to fulfill our every need...all without the greedy selfish desire to keep their work out of the hands of the poor.

Lee

spellbanisher · 05-13-2011, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leebase

I'm just carrying on that side of the debate until the real anarchists and communists step up to the plate and carry their fair share of this debate.

Lee

You seem to see the world in a communist/capitalist dichotomy. The cold war ended twenty years ago.

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spellbanisher Guru Posts: 826 Karma: 6566849 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Bay Area Device: kindle keyboard, kindle fire hd, S4, Nook hd+	I think people in this thread need to turn on their sarcasm radars.

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apbschmitz Lord of Frogtown Posts: 149 Karma: 1154748 Join Date: May 2011 Location: St. Paul MN Device: Kindle	Okay, this is from the perspective of someone who has made a living from writing for the past 35 years. Why is this conversation limited to intellectual property? To extend the logic a bit, why shouldn't all property be open to all takers? I suppose I'd be happy enough to give away what I make if I could take everything else I need. Is that part of the deal?

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