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Old 09-13-2015, 06:11 AM   #16
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I'm not sure there's any real pressure to lower the price. The current Voyage has sold very well, and there seems to be room in the market for a "premium" product. If the price was lowered, it may damage PW sales.
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I'm not sure there's any real pressure to lower the price. The current Voyage has sold very well, and there seems to be room in the market for a "premium" product. If the price was lowered, it may damage PW sales.
If customers move from a mid-range product to a high-end product (from the same company), isn't that a good thing?
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If customers move from a mid-range product to a high-end product (from the same company), isn't that a good thing?
Certainly it is, so why lower the price if a lot of people are buying the high-end product at its current price?
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Certainly it is, so why lower the price if a lot of people are buying the high-end product at its current price?
My assumption: Mid-range product has many many more customers than the high-end product.

Conclusion: moving a lot of customers from the low-cost/low profit PW (another assumption) device to higher priced/higher profit Voyager (another assumption) would make a lot more money.

We may not have enough information to say which is more profitable.
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Amazon will want to increase the difference between the Voyage and the PW3. The screens are the same, so all that leaves is the styling and the buttons. I don't see quite what they can do. Maybe Amazon think that's enough.

I expect the "upgrades" to be underwhelming. Don't expect to see any significant innovation. Same old 6". Maybe they'll throw users a new font
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Amazon will want to increase the difference between the Voyage and the PW3. The screens are the same, so all that leaves is the styling and the buttons.
That's not all. There's also the metal case of the Voyage compared to the plastic case of the PW3, toughened glass screen of the Voyage compared to the plastic screen of the PW3 (the glass screen noticeably improves the contrast), and the light sensor of the Voyage, which the PW3 lacks.
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Give me an 8" e-ink device with a super sharp screen, leave off the light, price $70 range and I'm interested.
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Give me an 8" e-ink device with a super sharp screen, leave off the light, price $70 range and I'm interested.
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Amazon will want to increase the difference between the Voyage and the PW3. The screens are the same, so all that leaves is the styling and the buttons. I don't see quite what they can do. Maybe Amazon think that's enough.

I expect the "upgrades" to be underwhelming. Don't expect to see any significant innovation. Same old 6". Maybe they'll throw users a new font
I am expecting (at some point in the next couple of years) to see the Voyager line go water resistant to take some of the Kobo H2O's beach vacation and mass transit commuter thunder.
That would make more sense in my view than a new line to fit that market.

I think that would be significant even though Kobo already broke that ground.
If it happens, don't be looking for a price drop.
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Eink do actually make an 8" Pearl screen with a 1600x1200 resolution, so it could be done, but probably not for $70
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I'm sure at some point Amazon is going to replace the PW with the Voyage, and create a new premium device. Or make a Voyage, call it the PW4, and make a better Voyage.
Technology moves on, what was once premium becomes standard.

Whether that time is now? I don't know, I guess we will find out soon.
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I'm sure at some point Amazon is going to replace the PW with the Voyage, and create a new premium device. Or make a Voyage, call it the PW4, and make a better Voyage.
Technology moves on, what was once premium becomes standard.

Whether that time is now? I don't know, I guess we will find out soon.
I think the PW will be the budget line and the Voyage the premium line.

I don't see what Amazon can do with the Voyage other than make a larger screen version.
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No one saw the Voyage coming, though. Amazon do surprise people sometimes.
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I would expect to see a new Voyage announced in the next month. The current Voyage was released on 21st October 2014, and Amazon do tend to refresh product ranges on roughly a one-year timescale.
Amazon already refreshed the Kindle product line this year when they launched the KPW3.

Also, I would remind you that we have seen many FCC listings for Amazon gadgets but nothing that could be described as an ereader:
http://the-digital-reader.com/2015/0...hey-have-wifi/
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