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Old 06-26-2020, 02:39 PM   #706
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Do you have a link to the published order (including the shorts)?
Short answer? No. Longer Answer: The novels, in written order, are:
  1. Agent of Change
  2. Conflict of Honors
  3. Carpe Diem
  4. Plan B
  5. Local Custom
  6. Scout’s Progress
  7. I Dare
  8. Balance of Trade
  9. Crystal Soldier
  10. Crystal Dragon
  11. Fledgling
  12. Saltation
  13. Mouse and Dragon
  14. Ghost Ship
  15. Dragon Ship
  16. Necessity’s Child
  17. Trade Secret
  18. Dragon in Exile
  19. Alliance of Equals
  20. The Gathering Edge
  21. Neogenesis
  22. Accepting the Lance
  23. Trader’s Leap (December, 2020)

For the short stories, the easiest solution is the four volumes of the Liaden Universe Constellation, which combines them all, in roughly the order they were published. I'm not sure anyone has completely interspersed them that way (and I'm not sure it would be relevant, even if they had!) The authors are rather prolific and have often written shorter works that they self-published to pay the bills without a whole lot of concern about where they fit in the overall timeline.

Ultimately, it really doesn't matter WHERE you jump in to the Liaden Universe. There are some fairly obvious places, depending on your preferences, but it's a UNIVERSE, not a story line or a sequential series. Some like to start with Agent of Change because it's free, the first book published, and a rip-roaring tale; others like to dip their toes in Local Custom or Balance of Trade because they aren't really part of the core Korval sequence (and Balance of Trade has always been standalone, though they did, finally, write a sequel to it.) And still others like to start with Fledgling , the beginning of the Theo Watley sequence because it's free and it's a bit YA.

The only thing I would say is to avoid, the first time through, reading them in actual chronological order. The Crystal Soldier/Crystal Dragon pair are the first chronologically, but not really the best place to start, IMNSHO.

Books that can comfortably be read without any prior reading in the Liaden Universe include:
  • Agent of Change
  • Conflict of Honors
  • Local Custom
  • Scout’s Progress
  • Balance of Trade
  • Fledgling
  • Crystal Soldier
  • Necessity’s Child
  • Dragon in Exile
  • Alliance of Equals

Finally, there's a fan Wiki which includes a bit more sequential information here. It includes the publication order of the chapbooks that contain the various shorter works. But if you buy the chapbooks, you'll be spending rather more than if you buy the four Constellation books.
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Old 06-26-2020, 02:54 PM   #707
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Thanks much for the list and link.

Do the Constellation books say where the stories fit? The Dresden files short collections say where the shorts fit.
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Some might? There are brief author intros to the individual stories, but really, they're designed to be standalone. Often they're things like a story about the Taxi Driver and what happens to her. But the taxi driver doesn't actually appear in one of the novels (until MUCH later, and then only peripherally.) She is a significant character in one of the short stories, and then, when everyone said "Hey, what happened to the taxi driver" enough times, they wrote another story about her. So, if you read the Constellation books in order, I think she's in Constellation 2 and Constellation 3. So you don't need to worry about getting them backwards. And really, you don't need to worry anyway, because each story is standalone. None of the shorter works are dependent on the novels.
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Also, I recommend the non-canon chapters that were originally going to be Accepting the Lance until the authors had to toss 70,000+ words out the door and start over. They're being posted, a chapter at a time as "The Wrong Lance", up on the Splinter Universe. Some interesting scenes, for sure. Some of this did make it back into Accepting the Lance, but others, sadly, did not. However, reading these sections has pushed me to do a re-read, mostly Audible, of Lance. Just to make sure I keep track of which is canon and which is NOT.
Heads Up: Chapter 6 of The Wrong Lance is up on the Splinter Universe.
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OK, everyone. The final chapter of "The Wrong Lance" is up on Splinter Universe. I remind those following along that this is NOT a completed book, nor ever will be. Because it was just Wrong. But it has certainly been interesting!

And it wouldn't hurt y'all to drop a couple of bucks in the tip jar for our beloved authors. (The Donate button is at the bottom of the page.)
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In my email just minutes ago.

Sharon Lee and Steve Miller's Trader's Leap is now available as an eARC. Get your copy here:

https://www.baen.com/trader-s-leap-earc.html

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In my email just minutes ago.

Sharon Lee and Steve Miller's Trader's Leap is now available as an eARC. Get your copy here:

https://www.baen.com/trader-s-leap-earc.html

bernie
Thanks, I really needed that. Couldn't they have waited until I'd had a chance to read the new Foreigner? (Due out Tuesday, so likely Monday night.And I'm just doing a re-read of the previous one, Resurgence.)
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In my email just minutes ago.

Sharon Lee and Steve Miller's Trader's Leap is now available as an eARC. Get your copy here:

https://www.baen.com/trader-s-leap-earc.html

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Oh exciting!! Thanks bernie.
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Sharon Lee and Steve Miller's Trader's Leap is now available as an eARC. Get your copy here:

https://www.baen.com/trader-s-leap-earc.html

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Thank you very much for this info!!!
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And The Wrong Lance is now available for pre-order. And will release at the end of October.
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The Wrong Lance is available for pre-order in the Ithing store, Kindle, Kobo and Nook stores.

YES, it will be available from Baen, on October 27. Baen is not able to do pre-orders for Pinbeam Books. Thank you for your patience and understanding.

I am still trying to figure out if I can create a paper edition. Thank you for your patience and understanding.
For those just joining us, The Wrong Lance is a failed attempt at what became Accepting the Lance, novel #22 in the Liaden Universe. The authors were some 60,000 words into the book when they realized that it had to be scrapped completely and start over because it had taken a critically wrong turn. They have taken those 60K words and released them, with the strong caveat that this is entirely non-canon. It didn't happen, it's not real, and is there only for our enjoyment. They initially made it available as a serial, one chapter at a time, for free on their Splinter Universe site. That has now been compiled into a single chapbook for those who prefer to get their Liaden Universe goodies in a single piece, rather than stretched across several weeks.
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And The Wrong Lance is now available for pre-order. And will release at the end of October.
Thanks Charlie. It sounds like fun, in terms of getting to peek behind the scenes into their drafting process. Even though it’s tempting, I think I’m too impressionable to read it however . I’ll stick with the cannon.

I did just pick up their The Gate that Locks the Tree: A Minor Melant’i Play for Snow Season from Amazon though. From the description, it seems to delve into the tree’s extracurricular activities on Surebleak, which is a sideline I’ve been curious about.
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Major sale on all Liaden Universe eBooks! Here's the Baen page. They state it applies wherever they're sold, but no evidence that it's hit Amazon yet.
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Major sale on all Liaden Universe eBooks! Here's the Baen page. They state it applies wherever they're sold, but no evidence that it's hit Amazon yet.
That’s a great sale - thanks for posting! Baen says Trader’s Leap is expected in December. Darn, I thought it was coming out this month. But I was able to pick up Splinter Universe Presents.
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And, for those following along, the sale prices are now showing on Amazon.

Also, there's a new, short, splinter up on Splinter Universe.
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