Remarkable 2

[PeterT]

There is such a thing as a reflowable pdf you know.

[MrDrDr]

If you check the file system where Remarkable stores its data on your computer (for my Mac this is: /Library/Application Support/remarkable/desktop/) you can see it stores a pdf in the each folder that has a .epub ebook. When you change the font or line spacing it rebuilds the pdf to your chosen font/line spacing - which is presumably why it is so slow. The pdf does not hold any of your annotation though.

[MrDrDr]

Originally Posted by curtw

This is absolutely not the case. I just got mine today, and it's quite obvious. The user can change the font, font size, line spacing, and margin width, and the document will re-flow to accommodate those changes.

It's pretty darned SLOW at re-flowing (which is a legit complaint), but it's definitely NOT generating PDFs.

If you check the file system where Remarkable stores its data on your computer (for my Mac this is: /Library/Application Support/remarkable/desktop/) you can see it stores a pdf in the each folder that has a .epub ebook. When you change the font or line spacing it rebuilds the pdf to your chosen font/line spacing - which is presumably why it is so slow. The pdf does not hold any of your annotation though.

[curtw]

Originally Posted by MrDrDr

If you check the file system where Remarkable stores its data on your computer (for my Mac this is: /Library/Application Support/remarkable/desktop/) you can see it stores a pdf in the each folder that has a .epub ebook. When you change the font or line spacing it rebuilds the pdf to your chosen font/line spacing - which is presumably why it is so slow. The pdf does not hold any of your annotation though.

I've checked, and mine does not. There are .content, .metadata, .pagedata files, and a thumbnails folder associated with each epub, but not any pdf's.

[MrDrDr]

Originally Posted by curtw

If it matters, I saw an announcement of a hack today, allowing KOReader to be installed.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RemarkableT...er_on_the_rm2/

This just made the front page of Hackernews:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25124211
https://github.com/reHackable/awesome-reMarkable

Not sure I'm ready to risk my device yet...

[MrDrDr]

Originally Posted by curtw

I've checked, and mine does not. There are .content, .metadata, .pagedata files, and a thumbnails folder associated with each epub, but not any pdf's.

Interesting.. this is what I get:

[j.p.s]

Originally Posted by curtw

I've checked, and mine does not. There are .content, .metadata, .pagedata files, and a thumbnails folder associated with each epub, but not any pdf's.

Originally Posted by MrDrDr

Interesting.. this is what I get:

It turned out that 1% of the OS image copies used to flash the OS to the latest batch of Pine Phones were for an earlier version. Maybe you guys received slightly different software versions.

[curtw]

Originally Posted by j.p.s

It turned out that 1% of the OS image copies used to flash the OS to the latest batch of Pine Phones were for an earlier version. Maybe you guys received slightly different software versions.

I’m new to all of this, mine came with software version 2.4.1.30.

[bmix]

Originally Posted by Roos

If they make it possible to use android apps

Not going to happen. It does not run on Android, but on their own Linux brew.

[gwynevans]

Originally Posted by curtw

This is absolutely not the case. I just got mine today, and it's quite obvious. The user can change the font, font size, line spacing, and margin width, and the document will re-flow to accommodate those changes.

It's pretty darned SLOW at re-flowing (which is a legit complaint), but it's definitely NOT generating PDFs.

That's what I thought, but I ssh'd into mine and I've got to say, MrDrDr called it correctly! I stuck one of my fiction ePubs on there to try when I first got it, and this is what I've got...

-rw-r--r--    1 root     root         22873 Nov 17 08:11 .local/share/remarkable/xochitl/74376959-71e4-4c49-bc5a-00faa71e6ec0.content
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root       4700690 Nov  2 17:48 .local/share/remarkable/xochitl/74376959-71e4-4c49-bc5a-00faa71e6ec0.epub
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root           325 Nov 17 08:11 .local/share/remarkable/xochitl/74376959-71e4-4c49-bc5a-00faa71e6ec0.metadata
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root          2802 Nov 17 08:11 .local/share/remarkable/xochitl/74376959-71e4-4c49-bc5a-00faa71e6ec0.pagedata
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root       4081703 Nov  2 17:49 .local/share/remarkable/xochitl/74376959-71e4-4c49-bc5a-00faa71e6ec0.pdf

The PDF metadata 'Producer' appears to include 'Qt 5.11.3' but yes, it's a PDF of the ePUB...

Currently v2.4.1.30 - not sure when it updated from 2.3 though...

[j.p.s]

Originally Posted by gwynevans

That's what I thought, but I ssh'd into mine and I've got to say, MrDrDr called it correctly! I stuck one of my fiction ePubs on there to try when I first got it, and this is what I've got...

Have you added any EPUBs since you noticed the update to v2.4.1.30?

-rw-r--r--    1 root     root         22873 Nov 17 08:11 .local/share/remarkable/xochitl/74376959-71e4-4c49-bc5a-00faa71e6ec0.content
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root       4700690 Nov  2 17:48 .local/share/remarkable/xochitl/74376959-71e4-4c49-bc5a-00faa71e6ec0.epub
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root           325 Nov 17 08:11 .local/share/remarkable/xochitl/74376959-71e4-4c49-bc5a-00faa71e6ec0.metadata
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root          2802 Nov 17 08:11 .local/share/remarkable/xochitl/74376959-71e4-4c49-bc5a-00faa71e6ec0.pagedata
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root       4081703 Nov  2 17:49 .local/share/remarkable/xochitl/74376959-71e4-4c49-bc5a-00faa71e6ec0.pdf

The PDF metadata 'Producer' appears to include 'Qt 5.11.3' but yes, it's a PDF of the ePUB...

Currently v2.4.1.30 - not sure when it updated from 2.3 though...

[gwynevans]

Just did one to test - didn't even open it - although I was watching the folder in the UI

reMarkable: ~/.local/share/remarkable/xochitl/ ls -l 42ed5459-e266-4c9a-8e69-7dd7f6aa851a*
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root         20041 Nov 23 20:02 42ed5459-e266-4c9a-8e69-7dd7f6aa851a.content
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root        414900 Nov 23 20:02 42ed5459-e266-4c9a-8e69-7dd7f6aa851a.epub
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root           317 Nov 23 20:03 42ed5459-e266-4c9a-8e69-7dd7f6aa851a.metadata
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root          2448 Nov 23 20:02 42ed5459-e266-4c9a-8e69-7dd7f6aa851a.pagedata
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root       1755941 Nov 23 20:02 42ed5459-e266-4c9a-8e69-7dd7f6aa851a.pdf

[bmix]

Wow, that is crap!

It really seems, that the device is storing the ePub on its flash disk and then converts it to a PDF (which typically grows it in size by a lot) in order to display it. Ouch!

I received my RM2 two days ago and I might send it back, because of this. While there are a lot of shortcomings I would have endured (hoping for a firmware update or community projects), the vision they have is just so inapt, that I may just leave this platform alltogether. With 8GB of, unextandable, storage space and the habit to duplicate each book, at least doubling it in size, this is not going to compute for me.

[gwynevans]

Originally Posted by bmix

I received my RM2 two days ago and I might send it back, because of this.

You might want to take a serious look at why you purchased it, then - ePub reading is very much an add on feature. If neither the note taking or the large screen PDF reading are enough without ePub support, it’s probably not the best device for you.

The size of the storage is not going to be anywhere near being an issue for the vast majority of people - most files just aren’t that large, even apart from the fact it’s easy to transfer files whether my wifi or usb.

[rem736]

i'm enjoying the use of my reMarkable2. however, i should have suspected that epubs were converted to pdfs from the funky way that epubs show up on the device (all text is left aligned, even when in the epub, the beginning of each paragraph is indented). at this point, epub reading isn't all that important to me (on this device).

i just wish there were two additional features:
1. the ability to email a document to the cloud service that host the files, so that it syncs without using the mobile app or the pc app to load files.
2. the ability to air print documents to a paper printer that is capable of air printing.