Better Tolino dictionaries – asking for help

Moonbase59 · 12-13-2021, 08:03 AM

Tolino e-readers use version 6 of Reimar Döffinger’s (mainly Wiktionary-based) dictionaries (see Dictionary, DictionaryPC, Download), using the .quickdic format. There’s also a nice Android app.

Unfortunately, there’s only sparse documentation, and Wiktionary coding has changed heavily over the past years, resulting in nearly unusable pre-made dictionaries (especially the single-language "look-up" dictionaries). These now contain pages over pages of badly-formatted Wiktionary code instead of readable content. (See attached screenshots in my issue.)

The "usual" ways to self-create dictionaries fail, for example creating text-based files from Wiktionary XML dumps and converting these using software like pyglossary. I don’t speak Java, so I can’t modify the code myself.

I have already created tab-separated text files using a Rexx script by user "tscho" on the E-Reader Forums, then tried to convert these into a "single-language" lookup-dictionary using rdoeffinger’s tools, but to no avail. It is currently not supported. (See my issue regarding that.)

Mr. Döffinger told me he could give more priority to that, in case "a community existed" and "people would be willing to collaborate".

To all that wish for better Tolino dictionaries: Please participate in the discussions below and—if anyhow possible—help out and collaborate! THANK YOU!

rcentros · 12-15-2021, 02:50 AM

I would like to see better dictionaries for the Tolino as well, but I wouldn't have a clue where to start. Sorry. The PocketBook uses the .dic format which seems more widespread and I was able to upgrade my dictionaries there. But I only had to download them.

reindu · 12-29-2021, 11:41 AM

I agree, the Tolino dictionaries are disappointing. I picked up my old Kobo to read an English novel with help of the oxford dictionary. With the Kobo I found on internet quite a load of alternative dictionaries, I installed then a Swedish one. Tolino doesn't have that possibility, I tried some time ago to find a .dic file for Swedish, but nope. Maybe there is a way to transform the Kobo way of dictionaries?

reindu · 12-29-2021, 11:58 AM

Maybe there is a way to transform the Kobo-type of dictionaries to .dic's.

rcentros · 12-30-2021, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reindu

Maybe there is a way to transform the Kobo-type of dictionaries to .dic's.

Here's a source for dictionaries in .dic format, but doesn't the Tolino use .quickdic format? I'm using these dictionaries on my PocketBook. If I could use these on the Tolino I'd be very happy.

https://e.pcloud.link/publink/show?c...g3X&page=login

12-13-2021, 08:03 AM	#1
Moonbase59 Zealot Posts: 111 Karma: 196896 Join Date: Oct 2021 Location: Germany Device: Tolino Vision 5, Tolino Tab 8"	Better Tolino dictionaries – asking for help Tolino e-readers use version 6 of Reimar Döffinger’s (mainly Wiktionary-based) dictionaries (see Dictionary, DictionaryPC, Download), using the .quickdic format. There’s also a nice Android app. Unfortunately, there’s only sparse documentation, and Wiktionary coding has changed heavily over the past years, resulting in nearly unusable pre-made dictionaries (especially the single-language "look-up" dictionaries). These now contain pages over pages of badly-formatted Wiktionary code instead of readable content. (See attached screenshots in my issue.) The "usual" ways to self-create dictionaries fail, for example creating text-based files from Wiktionary XML dumps and converting these using software like pyglossary. I don’t speak Java, so I can’t modify the code myself. I have already created tab-separated text files using a Rexx script by user "tscho" on the E-Reader Forums, then tried to convert these into a "single-language" lookup-dictionary using rdoeffinger’s tools, but to no avail. It is currently not supported. (See my issue regarding that.) Mr. Döffinger told me he could give more priority to that, in case "a community existed" and "people would be willing to collaborate". To all that wish for better Tolino dictionaries: Please participate in the discussions below and—if anyhow possible—help out and collaborate! THANK YOU! How to manually generate a single dict from a tab-separated file? Dictionaries contain too much Wiktionary code stuff, possible to filter better?

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rcentros eReader Wrangler Posts: 7,443 Karma: 48453105 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Boise, ID Device: PB HD3, GL3, Tolino Vision 4, Voyage, Clara HD	I would like to see better dictionaries for the Tolino as well, but I wouldn't have a clue where to start. Sorry. The PocketBook uses the .dic format which seems more widespread and I was able to upgrade my dictionaries there. But I only had to download them.

12-29-2021, 11:41 AM	#3
reindu Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2016 Device: kobo aura	I agree, the Tolino dictionaries are disappointing. I picked up my old Kobo to read an English novel with help of the oxford dictionary. With the Kobo I found on internet quite a load of alternative dictionaries, I installed then a Swedish one. Tolino doesn't have that possibility, I tried some time ago to find a .dic file for Swedish, but nope. Maybe there is a way to transform the Kobo way of dictionaries?

12-29-2021, 11:58 AM	#4
reindu Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2016 Device: kobo aura	Maybe there is a way to transform the Kobo-type of dictionaries to .dic's.