Kindle Fire HD and Page Numbers

SASSBS · 05-15-2014, 02:44 PM

Hello,

I have spent a few months off and on reading the forum and trying various solutions to this issue but either I am missing something obvious or it is just not possible!

On the Kindle Keyboard Calibre sends the APNX file so that Page Numbers show up in books, on the Fire the page numbers never show up.

Looking at the Fire I can see folders with GUID's under the sidecar folder which seems to match the book GUID's. I have tried the APNX generator plugin to generate a APNX file and place that in the sidecar folder but still no page numbers appear.

I was wondering if anyone has had any success getting page numbers to work on the Fire HD and if so can you share your secrets with me please

Appreciate any help or advice.
Thanks

cybmole · 05-15-2014, 02:48 PM

on my KF HDX some official i.e. from amazon books have page numbers, some don't
At first I thought that none did, but bottom left of KF screen is an (undocumented? ) touch sensitive area that toggles between various views,like time left, location...one of those ( sometimes) is pages.
dunno about side loaded books- I convert all those to epub & use the nicer Kobo app

SASSBS · 05-15-2014, 02:51 PM

thanks cybmole the majority of my amazon books have page numbers when I flick through the options, but the sideloaded books don't display the page numbers on the Fire (Keyboard does which is the strange thing)

eschwartz · 05-15-2014, 03:46 PM

There is a good chance it is because of this: http://john.nachtimwald.com/2011/03/...d-kindle-apps/

The Kindle Fire is more similar to the apps than to the e-inks.

cybmole · 05-16-2014, 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

There is a good chance it is because of this: http://john.nachtimwald.com/2011/03/...d-kindle-apps/

The Kindle Fire is more similar to the apps than to the e-inks.

rather than have to hack the books to add APNX look at converting to epub & sideloading one of many good epub reeaders. that gets you page nunbers without even having to generate the numbers file.

I like the Kobo app but others go for moon+ or aldiko, or mantano & there are how-to-do-it threads for getting the relevant .apk installer files onto your Kindle from google store.
moon+ free reader is in the Amazon store so you can take that for a spin with s sideloaded epub.

PS this route bypasses 2 other KF hassles ( well 3 if you also have issues with books not appearing under "books"). it stops each cover being added back to carousel every time you open a book, and it stops covers turning into blank rectangles when KF does not like your cover art dimensions. You just have the epub reader app on the carousel & then your books ion "shelves" within that app.

SASSBS · 05-17-2014, 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

There is a good chance it is because of this: http://john.nachtimwald.com/2011/03/...d-kindle-apps/

The Kindle Fire is more similar to the apps than to the e-inks.

Hi Eschwartz interesting read that and it explains why non DRM amazon books that should have page numbers don't display them unless I delete and re-download.

It's a shame amazon decided to do it this way as it was a handy feature on the old e-ink devices.

cybmole Yes but I have managed to fix all the covers, the carousel has grown on me and makes it easy to find what book I am on and it also means I can read the same book at the same spot on multiple devices as last read position works on side loaded books so I would prefer to stick to the Kindle's app.

Thanks all for the advice.

eschwartz · 05-17-2014, 11:50 PM

My non-DRM books do download data from Amazon. As long as the books contain the same ASIN it downloaded the page numbers in my experience.

Regarding the Fire and apps, It should be the same book unless you have converted it anyway, since the Kindle must decrypt the book in the same way before opening it. It should keep the same internal super-secret Store markup after the deDRM up until you convert(/probably editing as well?) and therefore Amazon should think it IS their book. It would be equivalent to downloading from MYK.

Keep in mind I have the e-ink Kindle Touch, and have no idea how any other device might or should work, except by guessing.

05-15-2014, 02:44 PM	#1
SASSBS Connoisseur Posts: 84 Karma: 118 Join Date: Aug 2011 Device: Kindle Keyboard; Kindle Fire	Kindle Fire HD and Page Numbers Hello, I have spent a few months off and on reading the forum and trying various solutions to this issue but either I am missing something obvious or it is just not possible! On the Kindle Keyboard Calibre sends the APNX file so that Page Numbers show up in books, on the Fire the page numbers never show up. Looking at the Fire I can see folders with GUID's under the sidecar folder which seems to match the book GUID's. I have tried the APNX generator plugin to generate a APNX file and place that in the sidecar folder but still no page numbers appear. I was wondering if anyone has had any success getting page numbers to work on the Fire HD and if so can you share your secrets with me please Appreciate any help or advice. Thanks

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05-15-2014, 02:48 PM	#2
cybmole Wizard Posts: 3,720 Karma: 1759970 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: none	on my KF HDX some official i.e. from amazon books have page numbers, some don't At first I thought that none did, but bottom left of KF screen is an (undocumented? ) touch sensitive area that toggles between various views,like time left, location...one of those ( sometimes) is pages. dunno about side loaded books- I convert all those to epub & use the nicer Kobo app

05-15-2014, 02:51 PM	#3
SASSBS Connoisseur Posts: 84 Karma: 118 Join Date: Aug 2011 Device: Kindle Keyboard; Kindle Fire	thanks cybmole the majority of my amazon books have page numbers when I flick through the options, but the sideloaded books don't display the page numbers on the Fire (Keyboard does which is the strange thing)

05-15-2014, 03:46 PM	#4
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,422 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	There is a good chance it is because of this: http://john.nachtimwald.com/2011/03/...d-kindle-apps/ The Kindle Fire is more similar to the apps than to the e-inks.

05-17-2014, 11:50 PM	#7
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,422 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	My non-DRM books do download data from Amazon. As long as the books contain the same ASIN it downloaded the page numbers in my experience. Regarding the Fire and apps, It should be the same book unless you have converted it anyway, since the Kindle must decrypt the book in the same way before opening it. It should keep the same internal super-secret Store markup after the deDRM up until you convert(/probably editing as well?) and therefore Amazon should think it IS their book. It would be equivalent to downloading from MYK. Keep in mind I have the e-ink Kindle Touch, and have no idea how any other device might or should work, except by guessing.