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Old 10-08-2009, 08:39 AM   #46
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Na, vielleicht kommt dann noch vor Weihnachten der "Volksreader".
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Na, vielleicht kommt dann noch vor Weihnachten der "Volksreader".
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Marc, woher beziehst du dieses Wissen? Die Quellen, die ich gelesen habe (inklusive Amazon ...), sagen etwas anderes aus.
Was sagen die denn?
Habe (wenn ich nur wüsste wo) gelesen, dass der Bücherkauf kostenfrei ist.
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Was sagen die denn?
Habe (wenn ich nur wüsste wo) gelesen, dass der Bücherkauf kostenfrei ist.
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Sag ich doch, aber K-Thom ist anderer Meinung...
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Old 10-09-2009, 11:52 AM   #51
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Die Frage wird sein, als was uns Amazon.com definiert. Für US-Kunden ist eine Roaming-Gebühr von 1.99 US$ fällig, sobald sie außerhalb der USA ein eBook direkt über das Kindle bestellen und es nicht über den PC hochladen.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custom...75590&#archive

Da es sich hier um ein US-Kindle mit Vertrag zu AT&T und dessen Roamingpartnern handelt, nutzen wir rein von der Sericestruktur her den internationalen Romaingservice, solange wir uns nicht in den USA befinden.
Amazon hat es bisher schlicht versäumt, diesen Punkt abschließend zu klären. Nur wird diese Gebühr anfallen, denn wer soll die Kosten denn sonst tragen? AT&T? Die werden sich bedanken ...
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Die Frage wird sein, als was uns Amazon.com definiert. Für US-Kunden ist eine Roaming-Gebühr von 1.99 US$ fällig, sobald sie außerhalb der USA ein eBook direkt über das Kindle bestellen und es nicht über den PC hochladen.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custom...75590&#archive

Da es sich hier um ein US-Kindle mit Vertrag zu AT&T und dessen Roamingpartnern handelt, nutzen wir rein von der Sericestruktur her den internationalen Romaingservice, solange wir uns nicht in den USA befinden.
Amazon hat es bisher schlicht versäumt, diesen Punkt abschließend zu klären. Nur wird diese Gebühr anfallen, denn wer soll die Kosten denn sonst tragen? AT&T? Die werden sich bedanken ...
Ich verstehe es so, dass wenn Roaming Kosten entstehen, sie von amazon getragen werden. Die Erläuterung ist für mich eindeutig und mir ist ehrlich gesagt egal, wer dafür zahlt, solange es nicht der Endkunde ist. Amazon hat diesen Punkt sehr wohl abschliessend geklärt : Free 3G wireless lets you download books right from your Kindle. No monthly fees, service plans, or hunting for Wi-Fi hotspots. For non-U.S. customers, there are also no additional charges for wireless delivery outside your home country
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Hat schon jemand diesen Punkt bei amazon nachgefragt?
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Old 10-10-2009, 06:11 AM   #54
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Ich hab nachgefragt, ob die Kindle App kommt, hab aber bis jetzt keine Antwort!
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Ich verstehe es so, dass wenn Roaming Kosten entstehen, sie von amazon getragen werden. Die Erläuterung ist für mich eindeutig und mir ist ehrlich gesagt egal, wer dafür zahlt, solange es nicht der Endkunde ist. Amazon hat diesen Punkt sehr wohl abschliessend geklärt : Free 3G wireless lets you download books right from your Kindle. No monthly fees, service plans, or hunting for Wi-Fi hotspots. For non-U.S. customers, there are also no additional charges for wireless delivery outside your home country
Genau das wird in einem Artikel von The Guardian aufgeschlüsselt:

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"International customers do pay a higher price for their books than US customers due to higher operating costs outside of the US," said the spokesman. "Additionally, VAT rates in the EU are higher on ebooks than on print books."

Those comments are in strict contrast to earlier statements by the company, in which it had said specifically that "there are no additional fees for international customers".
Ist ja egal ob die Gebühren also für den Download draufgeschlagen werden oder einfach die eBooks teurer sind - als Nicht-US-Nutzer zahlt man drauf. Dementsprechend dürfte es dann zB auch keine kostenlosen Publi-Domain-Bücher per Whispernet geben.
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Ist ja egal ob die Gebühren also für den Download draufgeschlagen werden oder einfach die eBooks teurer sind - als Nicht-US-Nutzer zahlt man drauf. Dementsprechend dürfte es dann zB auch keine kostenlosen Publi-Domain-Bücher per Whispernet geben.
Na, das ist wirklich so was von wurscht. Die Books bei uns und bei Feedbooks sind eh viel besser formatiert und ohne irgendwelche Zusatzkosten zugänglich und die PRC/Mobi - Formate funktionieren anstandslos auf dem Kindle (wie übrigens auch alle anderen DRM-freien Mobis (erhältlich unter anderem bei Baen, Fictionwise, K-Thom und beam)
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Wenn der txtr nicht bald zu haben ist, werde ich einen Kindle bestellen.
Dann gibt es Informationen aus 1. Hand.
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Hat schon jemand diesen Punkt bei amazon nachgefragt?
Habe bei Amazon nachgefragt.
Antwort Kurzfassung: "Bitte wenden Sie sich diesbezüglich an Amazon.com."
Diesem Aufruf bin ich soeben gefolgt. Mehr hier nach der Antwort-Mail.
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Habe bei Amazon nachgefragt.
Antwort Kurzfassung: "Bitte wenden Sie sich diesbezüglich an Amazon.com."
Diesem Aufruf bin ich soeben gefolgt. Mehr hier nach der Antwort-Mail.
Da musst du aufpassen, die kann bei Amazon durchaus schon bei dir im Postfach liegen. Habe von Amazon schon Sonntags um zehn Uhr abends E-Mails gekriegt (wohlgemerkt, keine maschinellen, sondern von einer Frau geschrieben)
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Die Antwort von Amazon.com:
Es entstehen beim Bücherkauf keine zusätzlichen Gebühren.
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