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Well, now I'm very curious. In the first post pox67 said that theres a difference in contrast between the PRS 505's screen and the Bebook. Other users didnt find any problem. Maybe they should use a magnifying glass to find these little dots? Its a little mysterious. (Or the PRS 505 have smaller black dots, or fewer?) One big reason was for me to buy an ebook reader is the screen's quality. /I have used many PDA's, starting a Handrspring Visor Platinum, long time ago /.
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http://flickr.com/photos/nickgray/35218857/ I had to use a 10X magnifier to see them on my BeBook, but they are there just like the Sony screen. |
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02-05-2009, 12:43 PM | #18 |
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Its okay. So there are models, where these dots are quite visible without magnify, (like the device I have) and others, where these dots are small enough not to care about.
The problem is, that these dots (lots of) can make the screen look more greyish when its should be "white". Throwing away the great contrast, what is could give. |
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I think the way that eInk "works" provides a simple explanation for this.
A "pixel" on an eInk screen is a fluid-filled cell containing lots of little particles which are black on one side, and white on the other. They "flip" from "white side up" to "black side up" and vice versa when the appropriate electric current is passed through the cell. I think that all that's happening here is that when the screen is "white", a small fraction of the cell particles are still showing "black", hence the tiny little black dots which "dust" the screen if you look at it very closely. That's just an "off the cuff" guess at what's happening, but I think it might well be the correct explanation. |
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Thanks again Harry.
I've found pics here: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...hu-hu%26sa%3DN and here: http://people.cs.vt.edu/~njustn/DSC00355.JPG They are quite reassuring. |
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Either Bebook has a bad batch of eink screens or they are noticeably inferior to the Sony PRS-505 screens. Even when the Bebook is off there is noticeable greying of the screen. |
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Sorry to ask an obvious question, but have you directly compared the BeBook screen to that of the Sony? They use an identical screen, and all eInk screens are "grey" rather than "white".
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I am pretty sure the Sony uses an 8 grey scale screen where the Bebook uses a 4 grey scale so the screens are no identical. Has anyone opened up their eink device to take a look at the screen? Does it have a serial number or manufacturer number? |
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Hello again! I get an update to my question/problem. I've a really nice support in my country to my V3 (Koobe). They are really helpful. After a few letters, they sent me a possible solution! Its possible that I have to update the EPD waveform version to a newer one. I'll give it a try after work. If anybody interested, I'll post my results, and the method how to do it.
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EDIT Ooops, posted in wrong thread.
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impry,
is that update meant to clear up the screen? If so I would be very interested! |
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