NOW I understand

3dusty · 10-03-2010, 06:28 PM

I'm totally new to ebooks and just got a reader earlier this summer. I've been learning so much from this site.

I've seen discussions about the geo restrictions, but haven't given it much thought....until now!

Found the first book in a series (in which I have all the rest as ebooks) just released in ebook format. Yeah! Tried to purchase and said can't sell to Usa. Huh? This is a book written by a person living in Usa.

So now I understand everyone's pain.

But I do have a question. Once the publisher has set this up, does an ebook ever become available in the forbidden countries in the future, or is it now set in stone that sells will not be allowed in those particular countries?

Thanks for your thoughts and for adding to my education.

Dusty

desertgrandma · 10-03-2010, 07:02 PM

Welcome to MobileRead, 3dusty.

Someone will have an answer shortly....

Feel free to click on the 'introduce myself' thread below and be welcomed properly.....

Rumpelteazer · 10-03-2010, 07:37 PM

Welcome 3 dusty.

To answer your question: it depends if the publisher of a certain region has the ebook rights and if they do if they want to release the ebook. For instance Stephen King's book were available as ebook in the US for a while before they were released in Europe, same for Stieg Larsson's trilogy and so on.

You could try emailing the US publisher, or even the author, if they have any plans of releasing the novel you want as an ebook. They might have plans to release it and otherwise they will know there is interest in it.

Some ebook stores can tell where you are by your ISP, others use your credit card/paypal details. If you really want to, there are ways to work around most of those restrictions.

3dusty · 10-03-2010, 09:53 PM

Thanks for the info.

The sad part is that I bought the PB but haven't read it yet. I enjoy my reader so much, I can't seem to want to pick up a book anymore. Ebooks have definately changed how I view reading.

sabredog · 10-03-2010, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3dusty

Thanks for the info.

The sad part is that I bought the PB but haven't read it yet. I enjoy my reader so much, I can't seem to want to pick up a book anymore. Ebooks have definately changed how I view reading.

I feel the same way. My youngest daughter is a mad keen reader and drags us into bookstores as much as she can. I look at some of the fiction books on the shelf and wonder how I read such bulky tomes.

We adjust all the time to different ways of doing things I guess!

carld · 10-03-2010, 10:27 PM

Welcome to MR Dusty. I ran into that exact problem with the Dog Days series. Books 2, 3, (and soon 4) are available as ebooks, but book 1 was not, at least in the US. I ended up reading the first book in paper, laboriously.

doreenjoy · 10-03-2010, 11:06 PM

Welcome to the forum.

I've heard several publishers have had problems with the Amazon store making their books "not available in the US" even if the publisher has US distribution rights. I suggest you contact the publisher and ask about it. Good luck!

FizzyWater · 10-03-2010, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carld

Welcome to MR Dusty. I ran into that exact problem with the Dog Days series. Books 2, 3, (and soon 4) are available as ebooks, but book 1 was not, at least in the US. I ended up reading the first book in paper, laboriously.

So odd...I was all ready to "prove you wrong" on this. I bought it from Books on Board, according to my records.

Well, I did, but it's no longer in my bookshelf. Probably just another casualty of the Agency5 cartel.

Better make sure I have backed-up backups of this file, since there's no getting it again!

crich70 · 10-04-2010, 01:13 AM

I think that's one of the things that is easy to forget when reading an ebook. No matter how many pages a book has they all fit on the same size reader that the book reader has in his/her hands. A 250 page book and a 1,000 page book are all the same to an ebook device. There may be a difference in how many kb's or MB's a book is in size but since we can't weigh that in our own hands we forget about it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabredog

I feel the same way. My youngest daughter is a mad keen reader and drags us into bookstores as much as she can. I look at some of the fiction books on the shelf and wonder how I read such bulky tomes.

We adjust all the time to different ways of doing things I guess!

3dusty · 10-04-2010, 01:41 PM

Yes, I haven't read so much in my life. I read maybe 3 or 4 books a year before the reader. A lot of it was I don't room for storing books and I hate going to town, so don't frequent the library.

But with the reader, I read almost every night and have bought way too many books as storage is no longer a problem.

Yep, I've got 2 pb I haven't read, but I just look at them and pick up the reader. Sad, sad. But most of my reading is at night in bed and with the reader, if my hand slips, I don't lose my place, I can hold it and turn pages with one hand. With the pb, if the dog or hubby shifted just so, it would knock my hand and then I'd have to thumb for my place.

Yup, definately spoiled by my reader. I'll send the author an email and just see what happens. Hmm, are authors made aware of the geo restrictions? Do they have much control or it is in the hands of the publisher?

neilmarr · 10-05-2010, 04:34 AM

Good to have your company, Dusty. Coincidentally, we've just been talking in another thread about how folks so quickly lose their prejudice against ebooks when they give ebook readers a fair crack of the whip. And your experience of finding that you now read more than ever is by no means rare. Happy reading and best wishes. Neil

PS: When it comes to georestrictions on ebooks, some stores slap on their own abitrarily to save going to the trouble of sorting out which publishers hold international rights to a title and which have country-specific deals with authors and agents. When a series is available in part, though, it would seem that the publisher holds all rights to the entire series for the outlet with which he's dealing. Your bad experience smacks of a store-imposed restriction. If you alert the publisher or author, I'm sure they'd be grateful for the heads-up and will do what they can to set things to rights. It's, after all, in their own interest to do so. Good luck.Neil

10-03-2010, 06:28 PM	#1
3dusty Connoisseur Posts: 54 Karma: 528520 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Arkansas Device: Google Nexus 7	NOW I understand I'm totally new to ebooks and just got a reader earlier this summer. I've been learning so much from this site. I've seen discussions about the geo restrictions, but haven't given it much thought....until now! Found the first book in a series (in which I have all the rest as ebooks) just released in ebook format. Yeah! Tried to purchase and said can't sell to Usa. Huh? This is a book written by a person living in Usa. So now I understand everyone's pain. But I do have a question. Once the publisher has set this up, does an ebook ever become available in the forbidden countries in the future, or is it now set in stone that sells will not be allowed in those particular countries? Thanks for your thoughts and for adding to my education. Dusty

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desertgrandma Enjoying the show.... Posts: 14,270 Karma: 10462841 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Arizona Device: A K1, Kindle Paperwhite, an Ipod, IPad2, Iphone, an Ipad Mini & macAir	Welcome to MobileRead, 3dusty. Someone will have an answer shortly.... Feel free to click on the 'introduce myself' thread below and be welcomed properly.....

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Rumpelteazer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,100 Karma: 24047426 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Utrecht, the Netherlands Device: Kindle Paperwhite Signature Edition	Welcome 3 dusty. To answer your question: it depends if the publisher of a certain region has the ebook rights and if they do if they want to release the ebook. For instance Stephen King's book were available as ebook in the US for a while before they were released in Europe, same for Stieg Larsson's trilogy and so on. You could try emailing the US publisher, or even the author, if they have any plans of releasing the novel you want as an ebook. They might have plans to release it and otherwise they will know there is interest in it. Some ebook stores can tell where you are by your ISP, others use your credit card/paypal details. If you really want to, there are ways to work around most of those restrictions.

10-03-2010, 09:53 PM	#4
3dusty Connoisseur Posts: 54 Karma: 528520 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Arkansas Device: Google Nexus 7	Thanks for the info. The sad part is that I bought the PB but haven't read it yet. I enjoy my reader so much, I can't seem to want to pick up a book anymore. Ebooks have definately changed how I view reading.

10-03-2010, 10:27 PM	#6
carld Wizard Posts: 2,698 Karma: 4748723 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	Welcome to MR Dusty. I ran into that exact problem with the Dog Days series. Books 2, 3, (and soon 4) are available as ebooks, but book 1 was not, at least in the US. I ended up reading the first book in paper, laboriously.

10-03-2010, 11:06 PM	#7
doreenjoy 01000100 01001010 Posts: 1,889 Karma: 2400000 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: Polyamorous	Welcome to the forum. I've heard several publishers have had problems with the Amazon store making their books "not available in the US" even if the publisher has US distribution rights. I suggest you contact the publisher and ask about it. Good luck!

10-04-2010, 01:41 PM	#10
3dusty Connoisseur Posts: 54 Karma: 528520 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Arkansas Device: Google Nexus 7	Yes, I haven't read so much in my life. I read maybe 3 or 4 books a year before the reader. A lot of it was I don't room for storing books and I hate going to town, so don't frequent the library. But with the reader, I read almost every night and have bought way too many books as storage is no longer a problem. Yep, I've got 2 pb I haven't read, but I just look at them and pick up the reader. Sad, sad. But most of my reading is at night in bed and with the reader, if my hand slips, I don't lose my place, I can hold it and turn pages with one hand. With the pb, if the dog or hubby shifted just so, it would knock my hand and then I'd have to thumb for my place. Yup, definately spoiled by my reader. I'll send the author an email and just see what happens. Hmm, are authors made aware of the geo restrictions? Do they have much control or it is in the hands of the publisher?

10-05-2010, 04:34 AM	#11
neilmarr neilmarr Posts: 7,216 Karma: 6000059 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Monaco-Menton, France Device: sony	Good to have your company, Dusty. Coincidentally, we've just been talking in another thread about how folks so quickly lose their prejudice against ebooks when they give ebook readers a fair crack of the whip. And your experience of finding that you now read more than ever is by no means rare. Happy reading and best wishes. Neil PS: When it comes to georestrictions on ebooks, some stores slap on their own abitrarily to save going to the trouble of sorting out which publishers hold international rights to a title and which have country-specific deals with authors and agents. When a series is available in part, though, it would seem that the publisher holds all rights to the entire series for the outlet with which he's dealing. Your bad experience smacks of a store-imposed restriction. If you alert the publisher or author, I'm sure they'd be grateful for the heads-up and will do what they can to set things to rights. It's, after all, in their own interest to do so. Good luck.Neil