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Interesting how people are different. I could care less about background textures - for me, the whiter the better and BookFusion is fine for that.
My show stopper for BookFusion is that there are no touch zones. I want to be able to touch either side for forward to next page and swipe to go back. I read really fast and touch is faster than swiping. I do agree that I like Marvin's customization of data in headers and footers. Quote:
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A bit odd. I think that I also read very fast compared to the average reader and I find that I prefer swiping to touch to change pages. |
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I used the pale beige on the older phone with rubbish backlight. My more recent LCD screens don't have the blue/purple/magenta casts and are fine at "white" and simply turning down the brightness to suit. The only gadget I have that gets close to decent auto-brightness is a Huawei Y6 phone (Lithium & Pocketbook both work well on it). Old & Android 5!, but bought recent, I think NOS intended for Poland. I removed some Polish Apps. My much newer Alcatel phone has to remain in the house due to all the 2FA/SMS authentication because if lost or stolen I can't have the same phone number ever.
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Hey Faterson,
When it comes to EPUB 3 I think we can say that BookFusion is the best cross platform solution for EPUB 3 books. * Quote:
We have a full override publisher settings that will be released soon starting with iOS as well. This will allow readers to have full control over how the book is displayed despite the publisher recommended CSS styles Quote:
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We can definitely*have this fixed in short order. *Can you DM or email support@bookfusion.com with an example highlight. Screenshot of the highlight you made in the book and then screenshot of the exported highlight* Quote:
*There might be overlap now but based on, based on where we are headed, we won't*be competing and will be providing significantly more value than just storage and a basic reading interface. As a result the amount of storage will not be a competing factor. *At the end of the day, folks can always use Dropbox or Google Drive if they care only about getting more space.* With regards to e-ink, the BookFusion Android app currently works on Likebook and Onyx Boox devices based on feedback from some of our readers. *We have not officially made optimizations for these devices yet but will do once the refresh of the Android app is complete.* Quote:
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I thought custom background images/textures were more of a distraction. But each reader has their preference, we did not have this scoped for this year to be honest but have added it to the backlog for us to look into further. Any feature we support will always be supported on all platforms (iOS, Android and Web). Quote:
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Fully agree with this. We do not allow you to save the custom themes or settings now but we already have this scoped and planned. It will be rolled out to iOS first. The beauty is that these settings will then be synced across Android, iOS and Web Quote:
Got it. The only one that seems not planned for the short term is customized headers and footers, would love to understand more about this particular use case. What are the changes that readers typically make in these headers and footers and why would it be a deal breaker |
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You are correct that we do not have custom touch zones. Currently we have some defaults - Tap right edge/swipe right to move forward - Tap left edge/swipe left to move backward However, I have observed that it requires moving your thumb/hand to a different location on the device but with your custom touch zones and gestures you can move forward and backwards from the same location on the screen. We do not have support yet but this is one of the most requested features. https://bookfusion.hellonext.co/p/cu...ap-zones-areas We have added it to the backlog of items to work on. |
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Moon is a lot better than Marvin in themes (Marvin only allows you to save five themes, which is very restricting), so I use at least 15 (!) dark background textures in Moon, along with about 15 light background textures. My favorite dark background texture in Moon is solid black with little red flames here and there all over the screen. It's my default night mode in Moon. Fabulous experience, reading books like that! In fact, I have just found a similar screenshot from Stanza (!) way back in 2010: The "little red flames" are a lot more subtle in my current dark mode background textures I use in Moon, almost imperceptible in a screenshot, but they are definitely there, it's really different from a solid-black background, and they enhance my reading experience considerably. Quote:
The result of catering only to the masses of average users with modest demands, of course, is that as of 2022, not a single professional-grade e-reader app exists on this planet. Quote:
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However, off the top of my head, the following 3 are must-have features/fixes for me:
As to customizing headers and footers, that's more a "nice-to-have" rather than "must-have" feature (after all, it's only available in Marvin, not in Moon), but if you wish to make the convincing claim to be a viable Marvin successor/replacement, you should definitely offer every Marvin feature, plus more (implementing/fixing many features that Marvin never got around to implementing/fixing). Quote:
That would be great! However, I must perhaps curb your optimism, because when we discussed this with Kris repeatedly and when he tried to fix this in Marvin, it was very difficult to accomplish, Kris said. And given that practically all e-readers do this (I have yet to encounter e-reader software that does not convert highlights to plain-text upon export!), I believed what Kris was saying. If, however, Kris was mistaken and it is an easy fix, that would be fantastic! Quote:
In top-left, you can see the highlight as made in the book. You can see the use of italics in it. Top-right is how BookFusion publishes the highlight using the share feature. The highlight is at this address: https://www.bookfusion.com/quote/592753-c1dd6504 As you can see, both italics is removed, and the paragraph break is gone. (That's how Marvin and Moon mangle highlights upon export as well.) Second from bottom in the screenshot is how the highlight appears in the highlights list in BookFusion's web interface. The paragraph break is preserved here, but italics is, once again, gone. Finally, at the bottom of the screenshot, is how BookFusion exports the highlight into HTML. It's currently fake HTML, in fact (just as it's fake in Marvin and Moon, despite being called "HTML"), because the only thing that's HTML about it are the trappings around the highlight. The highlight itself (the thing that matters most!) is, once again, forcibly converted into plain-text – the opposite of HTML. The paragraph break is at least preserved (unlike in Marvin and Moon), but stripping basic, meaning-carrying formatting such as italics or bold from the highlight is a big no-no. No software can aspire to be called professional that does this, so it's definitely something that needs to be fixed. I do believe Kris when he told me he did his best to fix it in Marvin, but eventually he was unable to do so. Hopefully you guys at BookFusion will be more successful! Quote:
However, I worry about data security and syncing volatility in BookFusion. That would be another of my major concerns, perhaps preventing me from switching to BookFusion full-time. I'll expound on this later on, but briefly: I would appreciate if in addition to your in-house syncing solution, you also made it possible for us to perform manual, on-demand backups of books in our BookFusion to Dropbox or Google Drive. You know, errors can sometimes occur, and Dropbox provides 30 days of version history for me. So, if something goes wrong in the book I work on, I can always return to the previous version of that book (of annotations on that book) as stored in my Dropbox. I guess BookFusion supports no version history, and why would you? But I'd hate to lose this feature (I really do experience data losses occasionally, especially when annotating PDF files), so I would really appreciate if you also made it possible to back up our books from BookFusion to Dropbox on-demand. (Ideal would be how GoodReader for iOS does it: you tap a single button, and the entire folder of books gets backed up to Dropbox or Drive.) Quote:
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I don't consider it a "must-have feature" for Moon (or Marvin), because those are free to use after the initial, low one-time payment. So, I'm OK with reverting to Adobe Acrobat for PDF files for now. However, if I am to pay a subscription for an e-reader app, I'd expect it to support PDF files fully. The way you've implemented it now in the web app is better than nothing, but it's not ideal. We really need freehand drawing – please take a look at how Acrobat, or GoodReader, or even Moon support it. The trouble with your current implementation is that it assumes that I always wish to highlight a rectangle. It always starts with a rectangle in BookFusion. But that's not my (and many other people's) typical use. I typically wish to highlight a few lines of text. So, say, if I need to highlight 2 lines of text and the first two words on the following line (because the sentence to be highlighted ends there), this currently can't be done in BookFusion. Because it's not a rectangle, you see? I'd have to make one rectangle highlight for the first two lines, and then another mini-rectangle just to highlight the two words on the following line. That would be extremely awkward and time-consuming. It's not true highlighting at all... I also frequently need to draw arrows in image-based PDF files, to point to this or that area of the page, and this currently can't be done in BookFusion either, because an arrow is no rectangle, either. Right. I try to keep it balanced: out of the 12+ books I always read simultaneously, I strive for around 6 of them to be non-fiction, and 6 of them fiction. (I also try to mix up genres, languages and centuries/years of origin as much as possible; the 12 books I'm currently reading are in English, German, Slovak, Czech, Russian, Polish, and French.) Quote:
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As to Android, it seems very simple there, based on how Moon+ Reader does it. You simply load your TTF files into any folder on your device, and then you point Moon+ Reader to that folder, and with a single tap of your finger, Moon+ Reader enables all of those fonts in all of your books. It's simply amazing! And because Moon makes it possible to store an unlimited amount of custom themes (not just 5 like Marvin!), it's a breeze (just 2 taps!) when you wish to cycle through all the available fonts in Moon, along with the color and background combinations you set up for them. Really, Moon+ Reader can serve as the perfect role model for you guys at BookFusion, when it comes to themes management, custom background textures and custom fonts. Quote:
What's important, though, is to make the number of themes to be saved unlimited (not just 5 like in Marvin), and to make it possible to switch/cycle through the saved themes on-the-fly, very quickly. (Just 2 taps are needed for this in Moon; keyboard shortcuts would be nice for this on the desktop.) Quote:
You can take a look at how I customized my headers and features in Marvin in that July tweet of mine. Please see the second screenshot on the left – that's Marvin. As you can see there, in my footers, I inserted data such as pages remaining in chapter and in the book, plus percentage read in the current chapter and in the entire book. Kris even made it possible to specify whether the percentage should use 0, 1, or 2 decimal numbers – a very nice touch! In my header, I decided to put the author's name, the book title, and the current chapter title. It would be very nice to have these headers & footers customization options in BookFusion. Quote:
Not sure if anything like this is available for Moon+ Reader. There used to be something similar in GitHub for Marvin, but I'm not sure it was transparent enough. As Beta testers, I'm afraid we were frequently left guessing and in the dark as to which features were on the radar and "coming up next" in Marvin's development. That lack of transparency may have contributed to the toxic atmosphere and endless squabbling in the Beta group. That lack of transparency has made it possible for certain individuals to spew lies, even nowadays, 10 years later, as to what was or wasn't planned to be included as part of Marvin's feature set. Hopefully, you can be spared all of that, @skillachie, and the atmosphere created by everyone wishing to contribute to BookFusion's development will be harmonious and always friendly. Last edited by Faterson; 09-02-2022 at 09:24 PM. |
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I'm not sure how background textures make for a better reading experience. Anything that distracts and gets between me and the words on the page is not needed. Do you actually take the time while reading to go "Wow! Those little red flames on every page make this history textbook so much more fun to read!" or "When I was reading Mother of Demons, that textured background made it so much easier to read!"?
Black text on a plain background, white or lightly coloured text on a black background are my preferred choices. You are welcome to your choices but please don't assume that your peculiarities are shared by the entire world. |
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Look at this background texture from Moon+ Reader as an example: That's absolutely beautiful – makes for a far more elegant reading experience than any dull solid-color background. I will never go back to reading books with a solid-color background. That's just dull, boring, demotivating and unattractive to me. That's why I say custom background textures are among must-have features for me, if I am to switch to BookFusion as my main (or only) e-reader. Quote:
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However, if BookFusion's ambition is to be a competitor, even a successor and replacement for Marvin and Moon+ Reader, BookFusion can't simply pick and choose among Marvin's and Moon's features, and disregard all the others. Especially not long-established features that have been around for decades. For heaven's sake: custom background textures were supported by Stanza (!) back in the 2000s. (See the screenshot in my previous post.) So, this is a non-negotiable item for me: it's "custom background textures or bust" for me. Just because you or others in this thread don't happen to be using the feature doesn't mean it can be thrown in the trashcan. I don't use Calibre, for example. Am I arguing for BookFusion to stop supporting Calibre because of that? Not in the least. I know many people use Calibre, so of course I understand BookFusion needs to support it. Bottom line: If BookFusion wishes to compete with Moon+ Reader and Marvin, it needs to support every feature that they do, and more. It's as simple as that. |
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Hmm... background textures motivating someone to read is one of the weirdest things I've heard. I understand their visual attraction, although I don't use them myself. But what motivates me to read is the book itself. If I feel bored or unmotivated, I'll ditch the book and start another.
Of course it's no skin off my nose whether BookFusion and other apps support background textures or not, as I read 99% of the time on my eink readers anyway. If they're important to other users, fine. More features is always better than fewer. |
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