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Old 04-15-2020, 07:00 PM   #1
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No line space break in between persepctive shifts in narrative

Hello all,

I was hoping someone could help me with a problem. I'm reading a book (an epub) where perspectives often shift within a chapter. To do this, the book is formatted so that whenever the perspective shifts, an empty line is shown in between paragraphs. Unfortunately, on KOReader, these spaces aren't there, making things a bit confusing to read. Is there some simple fix to this I'm just not aware of? I've tried toggling the embedded style on and off and it doesn't fix the problem.

The first attached image shows the problem (there should be a an empty line after “Elder Gods embodied a host of harsh unpleasantries.”), while the second image shows how it should work (same .epub file, but opened in Calibre's ebook reader). I've also tried loading .mobi docs and have run into the same problem.

Any ideas?
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Old 04-15-2020, 07:19 PM   #2
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We'll need the exact HTML snippet of such a scene break/PoV shift (which you can access in one of the highlighting menus, IIRC, although since you have Calibre open, that works, too ), as well as any Style tweaks you may have enabled (that's in the top menu > Document tab > Style tweaks), and whether you're actually set to honor embedded styles at all (that's in the bottom menu > Gear tab, IIRC).

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Old 04-15-2020, 07:30 PM   #3
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We'll need the exact HTML snippet of such a scene break/PoV shift (which you can access in one of the highlighting menus, IIRC, although since you have Calibre open, that works, too ), as well as any Style tweaks you may have enabled (that's in the top menu > Document tab > Style tweaks), and whether you're actually set to honor embedded styles at all (that's in the bottom menu > Gear tab, IIRC).

Ah, sorry, here you go! I have no style tweaks set. Embedded style is currently on, though I've tried turning it off, with no change to the problem. I've attached the HTML snippet.
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Old 04-15-2020, 07:58 PM   #4
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So, that's an inline br w/ a class. What does the CSS have to say about the calibre1 class?

xref https://github.com/koreader/crengine...ment-613285591
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Interesting. So it sounds like it's just a bug then?
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Old 04-16-2020, 12:20 AM   #6
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Quite likely, and one @poire-z was already working on .

Still curious about the actual content of that calibre1 class, in case it's sneakier than what we're currently aware of .
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Quite likely, and one @poire-z was already working on .

Still curious about the actual content of that calibre1 class, in case it's sneakier than what we're currently aware of .
Cool! Here's the stylesheet
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Old 04-16-2020, 12:06 PM   #8
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Nothing much to see there.
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.calibre_1 {
    display: block;
    text-align: center;
    text-indent: 0;
    margin: 0
    }
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Isn't the use of the br tag for a scene break a misuse of the tag ?

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/...TML/Element/br says :

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The HTML <br> element produces a line break in text (carriage-return). It is useful for writing a poem or an address, where the division of lines is significant.

Note: Do not use <br> to create margins between paragraphs; wrap them in <p> elements and use the CSS margin property to control their size.
A <br> on its own isn't supposed to create an empty line, the simpler solution would be to remove the Calibre_1 classing applied to the breaks (as it might be used elsewhere) and apply a class that set a top and bottom margin to say 1em.

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Of course, but the HTML being wrong doesn't necessarily mean our rendering is right. ^_^
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Of course, but the HTML being wrong doesn't necessarily mean our rendering is right. ^_^
Understood, I was aiming to point out how the OP could overcome the problem in his book with a bit of simple editing.

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