11-23-2016, 10:18 AM | #91 | |
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Honestly, I'm not a fan of Heinlein. I far prefer Asimov and Clarke. But I will say that Heinlein's stories and characters are more sophisticated than my two faves. I'm not saying he is Henry James. But compare Heinlein to the authors that he was in competition with. |
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11-23-2016, 11:53 AM | #92 | |
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It's not so much that the writers themselves were incapable of writing at his level as the fact that the genre conventions and establishment expectations were geared to more pulpish and high concept storytelling. Some of the same writers quickly adopted to the new paradigm. One that comes to mind as successfully adapting is Jack Williamson of both LEGION OF SPACE and HUMANOIDS fame. Read both and it's hard to believe it's tge sane guy. In some ways he was like Babe Ruth and Wayne Gretzky whose careers transformed their fields by showing just what was possible. Heinlein wasn't the last word, of course, but he did blow open the gates and pave the way for the New Wave and Dangerous visions cohorts that followed. |
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12-05-2016, 08:53 AM | #94 | |
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I asked what was Libertarian about a plot and you keep posting things that concern the libertarianism of the man who wrote the plot. And call me crazy, but David Brin--while acknowledging Heinlein's personal, general Libertarian bent (and noting that it differed wildly from the Libertarian party of today)--seems to me to be criticizing those who would pigeon-hole his books and/or writing as merely polemic for any particular political/philisophical school of thought. In short Brin said exactly what I've been trying to say: the man wasn't his books, and was much less political in his writing than many would have us believe. Last edited by DiapDealer; 12-05-2016 at 09:14 AM. |
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I think that pointing out the consequences is more egalitarian than libertarian.
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