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Old 05-18-2013, 03:07 AM   #901
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Oder wars der Country-Touch in manchen Stücken? Dann schnell zurück in den Schrank!

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Vielleicht sollten die Geschlechterzuschreibungen wirklich etwas mehr verflüssigt werden, daher hier Antony & the Johnsons.

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Old 05-18-2013, 04:14 AM   #903
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Oder wars der Country-Touch in manchen Stücken? Dann schnell zurück in den Schrank!
Schick! Das Solo-Stück von Mandolin-Orange hat mir ja nicht ganz so gefallen, obwohl es Potential zeigte, aber das war gut.

Oh, und Country dürfen wir auch? Dann lege ich gleich noch nach. Ich verpflichte mich dafür auch freiwillig, mit Rücksicht auf medard auf das exzessive Posten von Dixie Chicks-Stücken zu verzichten. :-)

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Old 05-18-2013, 09:22 AM   #904
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Eigentlich fällt mir gerade auf das Gudy die schönste Musik zeigt (wenn man mal von pynchs ungarischen Liederwettbewerbsbeitrag, und seinem Devendra Banhart Film, und seinen französischen Filmbeiträgen absieht).

Es kann durchaus sein das Sachen nicht gemocht werden weil sie schlecht sind. Diese Möglichkeit sollte man immer im Hinterkopf behalten. Die Option »Person ABC mag das nicht« ist etwas unelegant.

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Old 05-18-2013, 10:33 AM   #905
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Danke, medard, so ist das richtig: Immer schön den ungarischen ESC-Beitrag erwähnen. Für diejenigen, die es schon wieder vergessen haben: Wir stimmen heute Abend alle für ByeAlex mit »Kedvesem« ab (Startnummer 17). Die Telefonnummer gebe ich rechtzeitig hier bekannt, damit sich hinterher niemand rausredet. (Wird nachgeprüft!)

Von Beth Orton würde ein fast direkter Weg (über Rustin Man) zu Talk Talk führen, der besten Band der 80er!!! Leider sind aber die Mark-Hollis-Stücke bei Youtube alle gesperrt, deshalb holt ihr jetzt bitte das Solo-Album von ’98 aus dem Schrank oder kauft es unverzüglich beim Online-Musikanbieter eurer Wahl (soviel Freiheit muss sein).
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Es kann durchaus sein das Sachen nicht gemocht werden weil sie schlecht sind. Diese Möglichkeit sollte man immer im Hinterkopf behalten. Die Option »Person ABC mag das nicht« ist etwas unelegant.
Das ist richtig. Es gibt da durchaus objektive Kriterien. Was mir gefällt, ist auf jeden Fall objektiv gut, was mir nicht gefällt, ist meistens objektiv schlecht - da lasse ich allerdings ein paar Ausnahmen zu in Gestalt von Musik, die ich theoretisch großartig finde, und praktisch doch irgendwie nicht ertrage. Wie John Coltrane's Ascension, ein Album, das ich tatsächlich gekauft und auch zweimal von Anfang bis Ende angehört habe. Es muss objektiv großartig sein, aber subjektiv geht es mir damit leider wie Marissa:

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Old 05-18-2013, 11:16 AM   #907
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Heute Abend ist das schon mit dem Grand Prix? Oh je. Gut, die Rufnummer dann bitte. Mit Vorwahl und Endziffer.

Zur Plattenempfehlung: Ist das dieses Album hier?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Hollis_(album)

Ich habe es mir gerade bei meinem künstlerischen Musik- und Beschallungsdienst bestellt. Ich hoffe ich habe die richtige Platte geholt.
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Old 05-18-2013, 11:23 AM   #908
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Ist das richtige Album, medard! Brav!

@ Herrn Doubleshuffle:
Du hast also, genau wie Marissa, »questionable taste in music« (bei 2’55”)? Ascension höre ich regelmäßig, erkenne jedoch – offenbar anders als der Nerd, der Marissa die Platte vorspielt – kaum einen Unterschied zwischen Take 1 und 2. Ist halt beides glorioser Krach.

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Der Satz »Was mir gefällt, ist auf jeden Fall objektiv gut« ist zweifellos vollkommen richtig – sofern ihn der Richtige sagt.

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Old 05-18-2013, 11:28 AM   #909
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Jetzt aber noch einmal zurück zum ESC:

Ich war gerade dabei, die Spiegel-Online-Besprechung der ESC-Titel zu lesen, als wie aus dem Nichts eine ebenso bösartige wie originelle Einschätzung des holländischen Songs erfolgt: Seine Melodie sei »beim ersten Hören in etwa so komplex wie die mittlere Werkphase Scott Walkers«. Dass damit der holländische Beitrag gemobbt wird, ist natürlich nebensächlich, aber Scott Walker zu kritisieren ist eine Verfehlung, die mich an die schlimmsten Exzesse der französischen Revolution erinnert. Quelle impertinence!

Gemeint sein kann damit eigentlich nur das Album »Climate of Hunter«, aus dem ihr jetzt Walkers Coverversion des Stücks hören dürft, das Marlon Brando 1959 in »Der Mann in der Schlangenhaut« gesungen hat.



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Selbstverständlich gehe ich davon aus, dass ihr mit dem restlichen Werk von Herrn Engel bestens vertraut seid. Falls nicht, gebe ich gerne einen Kurs.

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Coltrane zu erwähnen, ohne dass man ihn auch hören darf, drückt auf die Stimmung. Also jetzt eines der schönsten und deprimierendsten Coltrane-Stücke:



[Eine Aufnahme davon findet sich auf Live at Birdland, 1963.]
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Danke für das Kompliment, medard. Aber wenn Du so weiter machst, krame ich die Dixie Chicks doch noch raus...

Beth Orton hat mir auch gefallen, obwohl da für meinen Geschmack etwas zu viel Klangteppich war - ich mag's tendenziell eher sparsamer instrumentiert. Zu Coltrane sag' ich nix, da hat Marissa schon alles zu gesagt. :-P

Ich bleib' mal zunächst beim Country mit Bluegrass-Einschlag. Von Sidesaddle & Co. finde ich auf Youtube nichts gescheites (nur haufenweise Frauen auf Pferden), deshalb gibt's ersatzweise Jim & Jenni and the Pinetops - nicht ganz so gekonnt, aber schön zum mitsingen. :-)

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Der Risn' River Blues ist großartig. Sonst habe ich mir von den neueren Posts noch nichts angehört; den Beth-Orton-Song kenne und mag ich allerdings; und Coltrane prä-Free-Jazz ist sowieso ein Gott.

Hier aber mal ganz was anderes. Oder fast. Mal wieder eine von mir geschätzte Singer-Songwriterin, allerdings mit einem Lied ihres Mathematikervaters über die Zahl Pi. Ich finde es sehr sehr sehr sehr lustig:

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Wenn ich dann für Ungarn abgestimmt habe, darf ich dann noch für diesen stimmen?



Ich frage lieber vorher, könnte ja sein, dass du grundsätzlich etwas dagegen hast.
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Gibt es eigentlich objektiv etwas Furchtbareres als die deutsche Sangeskunst, die da gerade im ersten Programm dargeboten wird? Tim Bendzko? Sportfreunde Stiller? Das ist ja absolut niederschmetternd grauenvoll alles.
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Gibt es eigentlich objektiv etwas Furchtbareres als die deutsche Sangeskunst, die da gerade im ersten Programm dargeboten wird? Tim Bendzko? Sportfreunde Stiller? Das ist ja absolut niederschmetternd grauenvoll alles.
Ich kann nichts hören, hatte den Ton schon ab Lena aus...
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