05-14-2013, 01:49 PM | #31 |
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05-14-2013, 03:02 PM | #32 |
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Exactly what I was talking about. Even worse would be adding annotations, notes, highlighting. Any interfacing that requires updating the screen will be snail pace slow and probably result in some ghosting. YUK!
And I'll reiterate the lower pitch of 150 dpi. That is at the very bottom of the readable scale IMO. |
05-14-2013, 05:01 PM | #33 |
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Well, at 13.3 in, hopefully you don't need to zoom and pan.
But the 150dpi isn't good. That is half of decent print. It's ok for reflowable text but for graphs and figures and fine detail it's not going to be good. And the contrast will probably be pretty low too. At least they need epub3 support. Or doc. Or anything in addition to PDF. At least it's better than the giant double LCD kno (??) tablet. |
05-14-2013, 06:17 PM | #34 |
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zoom and pan is nearly not needed on the M92 sized devices. i cant imagine the need on an A4 sized page. As far as speed of the interface adn writing etc. it will be faster than currently available on sony devices which i wouldnt call slow as is. note taking should be as quick as on a wacom enable lcd screen. ghosting is dealt with with newer algorithms as well.
as far as it reading only pdfs at the moment that is clearly noted as for the testing only. probably to ensure the note taking etc IS fluid. the rest can be added in after. good luck with office documents though. While the M92 can read them etc I dont envision native ability to create on this device. that would price it out of the market. |
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Perhaps I have better imagination () but a prime use of PDFs, especially on an academically oriented device like this, is textbooks and technical documents, often containing tables and charts with small, dense print. Even on 2000dpi-equivalent text book, people sometimes use magnifying glasses. One a 150dpi screen, zoom will be essential.
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05-14-2013, 07:36 PM | #37 |
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granted APK. i thought of that as i was posting actually. even so with the newer processor, buffer and display algorithms it should be faster than the M92 etc. which isnt 'bad' really.
i wonder which is better, being able to zoom or having the producer of the pdf insert a page with a larger version of the chart/table that is hyperlinked too so you can jump to it by clicking on the smaller view... edit- on the epub3 support and other format, as i said above i think they are just concentrating on the pdf support during this trial to ensure they have the capabilities needed, that they get it right. then they can add the other support they already offer. Last edited by Dulin's Books; 05-14-2013 at 07:39 PM. |
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I suspect you're right in that anything noticeably better then what is currently available will be good enough for version 1, and it will only get better with the v2, v3, vx....hardware.
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Most of these documents are currently on paper, and the layout used for paper often directly made into a PDF. That's what currently is being used, that's what must be supported now. But by all means, get the device ready to support epub3 and e-reader-optimized PDFs. They are more likely to build hydrogen filling stations if there are already hydrogen-capable cars around..... Last edited by ApK; 05-14-2013 at 08:03 PM. |
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05-14-2013, 08:18 PM | #39 |
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it's very obviously a step in the right direction. I'm not talking about the size, I'm talking about using a goddam reader/tablet just as naturally as a notebook: to read and to write (and ocasionally draw), with a pen, not with your greasy finger. get away those lame keyboards from e-ink readers.
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You can find some additional information about the new Mobius technology at the Eink webpage now.
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05-15-2013, 01:54 PM | #41 |
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I'm glad that Sony seems to be back at full throttle
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05-15-2013, 03:33 PM | #42 |
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The spirit of the Kno lives!? SFinally a device on par with A4. However as most everyone here should recall past attempts serving up a device for academics perhaps the biggest reason for failure has been poor research/study management software. That is still where success or failure lurks.
Problem is the software needs to not only paradigm shift from paper but also serve every learning style/type out there. Closest software to that end, that I've used anyway, has been MS OneNote. Even then it has a ton of holes with a long way to go. Evernote also held promise but never made the commitment to serve academics either. I've actually been hopeful Pocketbook would make it happen with their focusing schools but that hasn't gone well either. With Sony's "our way or the highway" corporate philosophy my confidence from me is low that this specific device will break the barrier. It just seems counter to what Sony has done historically. Hopefully I'm not reading the tea leaves right this time. |
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if sony ever does release this commercially, i'm wondering if plastic logic would kick themselves in the ass for not releasing the que.
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Why do you say that? I think the contrast is slightly better with slightly bigger pixels. For an extreme example, consider the deep black segmented calculator LCDs from the seventies versus the dim gray dot matrixed calculator LCDs from the eighties. As others have written, that can come later. Anyone willing to cough up what this is going to cost is desperate for something decent for the set of PDFs they want to read and already has one or more current readers that do fine with reflowable formats and are easier to hold, use, and carry around. |
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05-16-2013, 12:17 AM | #45 |
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I'm intrigued by this, but I'd almost be willing to bet cash today that Amazon comes along and trumps it with a Liquavista color display that ties into their huge library of e-textbooks for an educational product. I think buying Liquavista gives them a vertical proprietary supply chain that seems aimed at that market when you take their e texts into account.
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