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Amazon is not revising history or pulling a book for political content; they yanked it due to copyright reasons. They are not backing up their actions with the threats of state-sponsored violence, nor are they acting as the sole conduit of information for an entire society. They also did not "break into" anyone's home to do this. When you buy the Kindle, you've already given them access to the device. They update the firmware, add or remove features, push content to your device, and remove content already (e.g. expired newspapers). Quote:
Of far, far more concern is that the NSA apparently reviewed a huge chunk of Internet traffic and communications without authorization (or discrimination). If you're worried about "Big Brother," worry about the NSA. Oh, and I've read 1984 and other works by Orwell several times. Some of us realize that it was intended as a critique of Stalinism, i.e. totalitarian Communism and Soviet state control. Commercial actions, while not necessarily legitimate, are in an altogether different realm. Quote:
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07-19-2009, 01:41 PM | #122 |
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More to the point, to my way of thinking, is that the 1984 analogy fails because Amazon is not the government.
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07-19-2009, 01:56 PM | #123 | |
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You guys can defend amazon if you want and take a sentence I wrote out of context, that is your right, but even Amazon can see the parallel's , and news articles can see the parallel. You don't , and I'm ok with that. Last edited by richman; 07-19-2009 at 02:00 PM. |
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You should go back and edit your message to remove the link to the priate site. You should know by now that links like that are not allowed on MR.
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The whole point of 1984 is that it's about a big-brother government. Governments hold power over people that private corporations do not. I am not saying that corporations can never be intrusive, but individual corporations simply do not have the type of power that a government does. Yes, I get that Amazon was intrusive. It's still not a government. You can choose never to deal with Amazon again, if you want to. Good luck trying that with a government. |
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07-19-2009, 06:40 PM | #131 |
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No, I just decline to accept a passive-aggressive non-apology.
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I just didn't agree with your viewpoint and you didn't agree with mine. It happens all the time. My intent was not to insult your intelligence, and if I did, I'm sorry. How you interpreted 1984 and how I interpreted was different. Do you want me to change how I look at it? I'm not trying to change your viewpoint, it is valid. And so is mine. And there are some that would see it your way, and some that would see it my way, and some that would not see it your way or mine. Last edited by richman; 07-19-2009 at 07:30 PM. |
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I heard Amazon are rebranding the Kindle in light of the latest Big Brother like behaviour. The new name will more accurately describe the state of your library at any point in time:
Meet the new Amazon Dwindle. Where your books might dissapear at any moment without any inconvenience to you!!! *Special discounts for totalitarian governments wishing to buy in bulk.* |
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Hope Amazon will do something with this issue.
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