Extended characters - Page 2

jbenny · 10-10-2007, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

FWIW, the curly quotes of the original PRC show up fine in MobiPocket Reader on both the PC and Pocket PC versions. I'll try it on my iLiad when I get home from work.

Please also try the ebook that I just posted on your various readers. I'm curious to know if using the tags works in all cases (I think they will).

jbenny · 10-10-2007, 06:17 PM

OK, I just downloaded and installed BD. BD is converting these HTML tags to the actual character when loading the source file. I looked, but can find no way to tell BD not to do this.

JSWolf · 10-10-2007, 06:32 PM

Well I tried your HTML samples and in BD and the Mobipocket PRC did not display properly in FBReader. The Simple-PRC worked fine. FB2 works fine as well, but the format is kinda like Simple-PRC.

jbenny · 10-10-2007, 06:42 PM

Exactly what settings are you using in BD to get a PRC that displays correctly? No matter what I do, I still get little squares. I am trying this on the latest Windows version of FBReader.

jbenny · 10-10-2007, 06:47 PM

It seems that FB2 is no good, as you loose the em-dashes and the grave-accent "a" character.

jbenny · 10-10-2007, 06:56 PM

I'm fresh out of ideas for now. The only thing that seems to work correctly for me is to extract the HTML file from the original PRC, change the characters to HTML tags, then use MakeDoc to re-create the PRC. Since MakeDoc isn't doing any character conversion like BD, things display fine in FBReader.

JSWolf · 10-10-2007, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbenny

I'm fresh out of ideas for now. The only thing that seems to work correctly for me is to extract the HTML file from the original PRC, change the characters to HTML tags, then use MakeDoc to re-create the PRC. Since MakeDoc isn't doing any character conversion like BD, things display fine in FBReader.

I used Simple-PRC which loses the formatting so that's not a good idea.

What I could try is writing out HTML from BD and then using Mobipocket disktop to make the mobi file and try FBReader on it.

jbenny · 10-10-2007, 07:27 PM

In addition, you might take the HTML file I posted (with the tags) and run that through MobiPocket Desktop, since we know that BD is doing character substitution. Please post both PRCs, so I can try them, too.

HarryT · 10-11-2007, 02:19 AM

I can confirm that the original book displays fine on the iLiad MobiPocket Reader too, so the problem seems to be specific to FBReader.

JSWolf · 10-11-2007, 02:50 PM

Here are the results of importing as is into Mobipocket for Windows.

jbenny · 10-11-2007, 05:08 PM

OK, this shows that MobiPocket for Windows isn't messing with the source file. That is a good thing.

JSWolf · 10-11-2007, 05:14 PM

But what are those aaaaa I see?

jbenny · 10-11-2007, 06:49 PM

If you mean at the start of a pargraph, I'm not seeing those in the last two files you posted. The only time I saw them was when I was trying different character-set encodings in the HTML source. What language do you have FBReader set to? Given that it doesn't have a selection for "English", I chose "Other".

JSWolf · 10-12-2007, 10:03 AM

It was set to Russian. I didn't know about the language setting.

I set it to Other and then reloaded one of the books and the aaaa is gone now. Thanks.

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10-10-2007, 06:17 PM	#17
jbenny Addict Posts: 323 Karma: 358 Join Date: May 2007 Device: Tablet PC and Nokia N800	OK, I just downloaded and installed BD. BD is converting these HTML tags to the actual character when loading the source file. I looked, but can find no way to tell BD not to do this.

10-10-2007, 06:32 PM	#18
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,897 Karma: 128597114 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Well I tried your HTML samples and in BD and the Mobipocket PRC did not display properly in FBReader. The Simple-PRC worked fine. FB2 works fine as well, but the format is kinda like Simple-PRC.

10-10-2007, 06:42 PM	#19
jbenny Addict Posts: 323 Karma: 358 Join Date: May 2007 Device: Tablet PC and Nokia N800	Exactly what settings are you using in BD to get a PRC that displays correctly? No matter what I do, I still get little squares. I am trying this on the latest Windows version of FBReader.

10-10-2007, 06:47 PM	#20
jbenny Addict Posts: 323 Karma: 358 Join Date: May 2007 Device: Tablet PC and Nokia N800	It seems that FB2 is no good, as you loose the em-dashes and the grave-accent "a" character.

10-10-2007, 06:56 PM	#21
jbenny Addict Posts: 323 Karma: 358 Join Date: May 2007 Device: Tablet PC and Nokia N800	I'm fresh out of ideas for now. The only thing that seems to work correctly for me is to extract the HTML file from the original PRC, change the characters to HTML tags, then use MakeDoc to re-create the PRC. Since MakeDoc isn't doing any character conversion like BD, things display fine in FBReader.

10-10-2007, 07:27 PM	#23
jbenny Addict Posts: 323 Karma: 358 Join Date: May 2007 Device: Tablet PC and Nokia N800	In addition, you might take the HTML file I posted (with the tags) and run that through MobiPocket Desktop, since we know that BD is doing character substitution. Please post both PRCs, so I can try them, too.

10-11-2007, 02:19 AM	#24
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I can confirm that the original book displays fine on the iLiad MobiPocket Reader too, so the problem seems to be specific to FBReader.

10-11-2007, 05:08 PM	#26
jbenny Addict Posts: 323 Karma: 358 Join Date: May 2007 Device: Tablet PC and Nokia N800	OK, this shows that MobiPocket for Windows isn't messing with the source file. That is a good thing.

10-11-2007, 05:14 PM	#27
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,897 Karma: 128597114 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	But what are those aaaaa I see?

10-11-2007, 06:49 PM	#28
jbenny Addict Posts: 323 Karma: 358 Join Date: May 2007 Device: Tablet PC and Nokia N800	If you mean at the start of a pargraph, I'm not seeing those in the last two files you posted. The only time I saw them was when I was trying different character-set encodings in the HTML source. What language do you have FBReader set to? Given that it doesn't have a selection for "English", I chose "Other".

10-12-2007, 10:03 AM	#29
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,897 Karma: 128597114 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	It was set to Russian. I didn't know about the language setting. I set it to Other and then reloaded one of the books and the aaaa is gone now. Thanks.