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Old 05-16-2017, 07:10 PM   #16
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Hummm I still waiting for the Self Drive car! Been talk of that for the past 50 years!
I just got my auto insurance renewal paperwork last month -
One of the amendments to the policy involved "networked" cars.

So they must be getting close to a reality (or the attorneys at my insurance company had a massive attack of paranoia).
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Old 05-16-2017, 07:17 PM   #17
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I hope Liquavista never comes out because then we'd only have it on sub-par devices created for the lowest common denominator. Kindles could be so much more if not for that.
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Old 05-16-2017, 07:22 PM   #18
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I think Amazon raised the price when they realized there are people out there that will buy the latest Kindle at any price no matter how poorly designed it is and they were correct. The Oasis is an awful design at a price that's way higher than it should be.
That's purely your opinion, of course. I, for example, did not buy either the Voyage or the Oasis because they were the latest Kindles. I bought them for specific reasons: the Voyage for its excellent screen and page-press sensors, the Oasis for its page-turn buttons and its design. Yes, my opinion is that the design of the Oasis is its greatest strength and I doubt I'm alone in this. I was willing to pay for it and have not regretted that I did.

That said, undoubtedly there are people out there who buy every latest Kindle regardless of the price, just because it's the latest. But I don't think they're the majority.

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Old 05-16-2017, 07:30 PM   #19
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That said, undoubtedly there are people out there who buy every latest Kindle regardless of the price, just because it's the latest. But I don't think they're the majority.
That is one example of what I meant by people who buy for the bragging rights.
(Probably the same group of people that install anything with a larger version number, because the version number is larger.)
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I just got my auto insurance renewal paperwork last month -
One of the amendments to the policy involved "networked" cars.

So they must be getting close to a reality (or the attorneys at my insurance company had a massive attack of paranoia).
On Star. Wifi in cars. Not sure if Bluetooth counts as networked but I believe the first two count as networked.
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That's purely your opinion, of course. I, for example, did not buy either the Voyage or the Oasis because they were the latest Kindles. I bought them for specific reasons: the Voyage for its excellent screen and page-press sensors, the Oasis for its page-turn buttons and its design. Yes, my opinion is that the design of the Oasis is its greatest strength and I doubt I'm alone in this. I was willing to pay for it and have not regretted that I did.

That said, undoubtedly there are people out there who buy every latest Kindle regardless of the price, just because it's the latest. But I don't think they're the majority.
I think most people who buy an Oasis do it for bragging rights. There's no other reason to buy one at that price and awful design.
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I think most people who buy an Oasis do it for bragging rights. There's no other reason to buy one at that price and awful design.
Have you actually talked to anyone that bought it only for bragging rights? That is just a curiousity.
Though I must agree with you on 1 point. It is an awful design for some people.
Others happen to like that design.
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On Star. Wifi in cars. Not sure if Bluetooth counts as networked but I believe the first two count as networked.
I am pretty sure I posted about getting an OnStar equip'd vehicle several years ago.
I located the antenna lead and unplugged it.
My vehicle's OnStar system is always in a "zero signal strength" zone.

I did get a few snail-mail notices that my OnStar system wasn't responding and that I should take the vehicle to a dealer for repair.
They finally gave up on that.

I don't like Amazon reading over my shoulder when I use one of their e-book readers.
I like even less GM keeping track of where I take my vehicle.
If the police want to stop me, they can just "old school" blink their lights at me - no remote vehicle shutdown available on my vehicle.
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I am pretty sure I posted about getting an OnStar equip'd vehicle several years ago.
I located the antenna lead and unplugged it.
My vehicle's OnStar system is always in a "zero signal strength" zone.

I did get a few snail-mail notices that my OnStar system wasn't responding and that I should take the vehicle to a dealer for repair.
They finally gave up on that.

I don't like Amazon reading over my shoulder when I use one of their e-book readers.
I like even less GM keeping track of where I take my vehicle.
If the police want to stop me, they can just "old school" blink their lights at me - no remote vehicle shutdown available on my vehicle.
Sirius finally gave up on us. We don't have on star. And my GPS is a garmin.
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Sirius finally gave up on us. We don't have on star. And my GPS is a garmin.
That sounds hard to track (independent pieces).

I have (when bored) read technical things on how the GM system works.
Just with the thought to make it always report the GPS coordinates of a Ford dealer used car lot.
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I looked at the Oasis when it came out and was disappointed. I had been hoping for a liquavista display or other significant advance. I saw no reason to upgrade from my Voyage, which I was happy with. Then my Voyage had an unfortunate accident (my own fault) and I was confronted with the choice of another Voyage or the Oasis. I went for the Oasis and do not regret the decision. It is expensive, but like many here I read voraciously and both my Oasis and my H20 are used heavily. The cost difference in these circumstances spread over the life of the reader is not really that significant for me.

For those who have a Voyage or a later Paperwhite, I wouldn't suggest upgrading. But if they fail or you are in the market for another Kindle, you should consider it. It is not the quantum leap forward I would have liked, but it is an improvement. But you do pay a premium. It is not the best value for money in the Amazon range, but if you are going to use it heavily it may be good value for you.
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Regarding this thread's topic, Liquavista got a new website recently, so there is hope left! http://www.liquavista.com
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The new web site does make me a lot more optimistic. They have hired some seriously good people by the looks of their brief CVs.

Perhaps it's not too optimistic to hope for a liquavista based Kindle by the end of 2020.
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The new web site does make me a lot more optimistic. They have hired some seriously good people by the looks of their brief CVs.

Perhaps it's not too optimistic to hope for a liquavista based Kindle by the end of 2020.
Oh, come on now, the briefs are no indication.
http://www.liquavista.com/company.html

Even if they dragged a member out of the gutter behind the nearest (drug) shooting gallery they would clean them up for the picture and not mention where they found the person.

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I looked at the Oasis when it came out and was disappointed. I had been hoping for a liquavista display or other significant advance. I saw no reason to upgrade from my Voyage, which I was happy with. Then my Voyage had an unfortunate accident (my own fault) and I was confronted with the choice of another Voyage or the Oasis. I went for the Oasis and do not regret the decision. It is expensive, but like many here I read voraciously and both my Oasis and my H20 are used heavily. The cost difference in these circumstances spread over the life of the reader is not really that significant for me.

For those who have a Voyage or a later Paperwhite, I wouldn't suggest upgrading. But if they fail or you are in the market for another Kindle, you should consider it. It is not the quantum leap forward I would have liked, but it is an improvement. But you do pay a premium. It is not the best value for money in the Amazon range, but if you are going to use it heavily it may be good value for you.
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