05-14-2022, 07:58 AM | #1 |
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Proposed change to library search
There have been several comments about the change to searching in V5.42 where naked (unprefixed) searches now ignore punctuation, spacing, and character variants (accented characters). Before it ignored character variants only.
I am considering adding a new search prefix, Kovid suggests '^', that forces the search to respect punctuation and spacing while ignoring variants. The existing search option "Unaccented characters match accented characters and punctuation is ignored" would have no effect in this case. Examples using two titles:
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05-14-2022, 09:15 PM | #2 |
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I like the idea of the prefix.
Additionally: What about adding an option to quickly toggle naked search without going through the preferences dialog? If there's not enough room for another button, it could work in the search box context menu. Last edited by ownedbycats; 05-14-2022 at 09:18 PM. |
05-14-2022, 11:55 PM | #3 | |
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Thank you very much And I hope it is possible to add that prefix |
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05-15-2022, 02:33 AM | #4 | |
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05-15-2022, 02:36 AM | #5 |
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I would prefer prefix for the new 5.42 behaviour as the «old» search is more common and well kown from other software.
E.g. I expect nothing for this search. title:"gb" instead matches both |
05-15-2022, 03:16 AM | #6 | |
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The only reason that could make "contains ignoring punctuation and accents" (as it is in 5.42) as the default mode, and not an extension/alternative, is that the demand for this exact behavior is very strong. I ignore it, is the case? |
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05-15-2022, 03:19 AM | #7 |
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I like the prefix idea rather than adding multiple buttons in the search dialog.
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05-15-2022, 04:41 AM | #8 |
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I like the prefix mode idea (I agree too in prefix for new behavior, not the existing one.. see Smart Eject plugin, but that is another point).
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05-15-2022, 04:51 AM | #9 |
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I like the idea of putting the search the way it was pre-5.4.2 and making it have to be prefixed to be the new search. That way it's very easy to just ignore the new searcg if you don't want to use it.
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05-15-2022, 05:10 AM | #10 | |
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The option in Search / Preferences is best treated as set-and-forget. |
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05-15-2022, 05:14 AM | #11 |
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@most people who replied: The consensus seems to be to put the new behavior under the new prefix and to restore the previous behavior/option for naked searches. I emailed Kovid to ask if he is OK with this. More once that discussion completes.
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05-15-2022, 05:17 AM | #12 |
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05-15-2022, 05:24 AM | #13 |
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Kovid is unwilling to change the behavior of naked searches for reasons I agree with. I will add the prefix.
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05-15-2022, 06:44 AM | #14 |
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Will the prefix also apply to searching for accented characters?
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05-15-2022, 06:48 AM | #15 | |
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Last edited by chaley; 05-15-2022 at 07:03 AM. |
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