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Old 12-29-2017, 08:08 AM   #676
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I looked myself and was almost willing to learn a new bag of tricks, if it wasn't for the inability to read KU books on a non Amazon eink device.
Can't the DRM tools be used on KU books?
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Old 12-29-2017, 09:50 AM   #677
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Can't the DRM tools be used on KU books?
Of course they can, but it is the same as pirating the book. Since I am already paying for the service, I can make sure the money I am paying goes to the author. Amazon would not pay anything to the author unless they seen me read the book.
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Old 12-29-2017, 03:30 PM   #679
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I have received my second Oasis. The images show that there is a difference in lighting between the 2 devices (one is more yellowish. Hope you can see it in the picture. In real life you can see it right away).
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Old 12-29-2017, 06:22 PM   #680
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I have received my second Oasis. The images show that there is a difference in lighting between the 2 devices (one is more yellowish. Hope you can see it in the picture. In real life you can see it right away).
Which one are you keeping?
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If you knew that, why didn't you go for a Kobo Aura One instead of new Oasis? Sounds like it would be your dream device for text based books.

I looked myself and was almost willing to learn a new bag of tricks, if it wasn't for the inability to read KU books on a non Amazon eink device.
For me, I have about 600 books on Amazon (I have prime), that I wanted to copy to my new device.
Figured I stay with Amazon, despite the issues I'm currently having with my current device.
Maybe my next device will be a totally different one.
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@gal_amy I am not sure yet. Want to try the new (refurbished) one out for a couple of days. But I noticed that the buttons seem to respond better on the new one.

@Prodigit Jaja, gezellig zo in het Nederlands ;-)
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Can't the DRM tools be used on KU books?
Not sure they can. I know they don't work on rentals. Anyway, as Duckie said, not cool to do because it would be stealing from authors.
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Not sure they can. ...
I've been informed that the tools do work on KU books.

Edit: and it is a couple of posts back in this thread.
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... I know they don't work on rentals. ...
What do you mean by rentals?
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Old 12-30-2017, 12:22 PM   #686
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Anyway, as Duckie said, not cool to do because it would be stealing from authors.
I'm confused. How is using the tools to remove DRM from a book so that you can read it on another device 'stealing from authors' if you already paid for the book?
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Old 12-30-2017, 12:37 PM   #687
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I'm confused. How is using the tools to remove DRM from a book so that you can read it on another device 'stealing from authors' if you already paid for the book?
This is a case where you have paid to read the book, but have not paid to own a copy permanently.

In Kindle Unlimited authors are paid monthly by the number of pages read. The Kindle software keeps track of this information. If you export the book to another platform and read it there then the author receives no credit for you having read that book.
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What do you mean by rentals?
Amazon allows some textbooks to be rented for a limited time at a much lower price than purchasing the book. DRM is used to prevent those books from being accessed beyond the end of the rental period.

This is different from library book loans, where the user is not charged.
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This is a case where you have paid to read the book, but have not paid to own a copy permanently.

In Kindle Unlimited authors are paid monthly by the number of pages read. The Kindle software keeps track of this information. If you export the book to another platform and read it there then the author receives no credit for you having read that book.
Ah, I didn't realize the discussion was about KU books.
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Ah, I didn't realize the discussion was about KU books.
I suggested a Kobo Aura One to ProDigit as it looks like it would have all he wants in an ereader. Unfortunately I excluded it for myself for the inability to read KU correctly.
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