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Old 09-21-2017, 01:24 PM   #166
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I agree. The best takeaway from these reviews is that the hardware seems to be adequate. That was my major concern.

There are a lot of potenial improvement to be made on the software side: given the software background of their CTO (Martin Sandsmark), I am confident that progress will be made.

The most important improvements in my view would be:

- integration with services such as dropbox, onedrive, google drive

This is low-risk development: these services have well defined APIs, and countless other vendors have successfully implemented them.

- improved reading capabilities

I am sure that drawing/writing was the top priority this time: that is now a unique selling point. On the reading side, instead of breaking new ground they simply have to catch up with the existing field. That should be doable. There are also substantial open source solutions to be inspired by (eg KOreader).

- Improved document review functionality

I feel that the Sony product is the leader here. Again, much to be learned from them, and reMarkable seem to be more agile than Sony.
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Old 09-21-2017, 02:01 PM   #167
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I agree with the above, except I don't quite understand what you mean by "document review functionality"?
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Old 09-21-2017, 05:04 PM   #168
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Document review capabilities

Check the manual for the Sony device.

Some good things there:
  1. Can list all annotations/highlights in a document, and let you jump to them in context
  2. Can search for annotations and highlights
  3. Can vertically divide screen and have document on the left, associated side note on the right
  4. Can add handwritten symbols to document from a defined list, which are OCR recognized, then later search for these symbols within and across documents

Since screen real estate is smaller on the reMarkable, perhaps you could have horizontally split panes with top 2/3 for document, bottom 1/3 for side note.

There are various symbol systems for proofreading/editing and marginalia. Imagine being able to define a symbol set and having the notepad recognize and classify handwritten symbols (a limited type of OCR), so that you could search for and list pages or paragraphs marked up with a given symbol.

Imagine reviewing a 100 page manuscript, and at the end being able to say "extract a document containing only those pages that have been marked up", and then mail this extract to your partners.

Just a few examples, I'm sure there must be many more.

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Old 09-22-2017, 11:02 AM   #169
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OK, I see now what you're referring to. But I'm not sure these are points the Remarkable developpers are likely to focus on; their device is intended as a note-taking/drawing/writing device primarily. Sony is already installed on the large-screen, document reviewing segment, and is likely to be hard to beat there.

This device is a smaller screen, made to be highly portable and pleasant to write on; adding, and improving, reading functionalities is certainly worth the effort because it's such a natural usage, but the Remarkable is never going to be as good as the Sony for things like displaying two pages at once, or doing OCR-like things (I don't think the CPU would have the power for it). So, in a way, it doesn't make much sense (from a developpers' time point of view) to make it marginally better at something there are already other devices that are much better suited for.

This does not mean I don't want the company to improve on these aspects - it's just that it seems likely that they'll spend more resources on things like better cloud integration, which would improve all of their users happier, than on adding functionalities which are unlikely to attract more customers. But then, even this depends a lot on how dedicated the company is to improving their device.
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Old 09-22-2017, 12:50 PM   #170
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The two first points on my list are likely to happen.

I am not so sure I agree with you on the likelihood of the third: reMarkable have already indicated that OCR for handwriting is likely to be implemented in the future. Recognizing a limited set of markup symbols would arguably be a much easier task, and should be within the capability of the device.
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This thread has been here - and never out of view on the first page - for the best part of a year.
Well, I guess I missed seeing it during the presale timeframe. I remember reading the thread early on, but then became very busy during the summer and was not subscribed to this thread.

I hope the price comes down in the next year or two, because the current price is out of my budget.

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This product reminds me of canceled PlasticLogic Que in 2010.
I followed PlasticLogic ups and downs and rumors for quite some time, hoping they would release a sturdy, unbreakable paper replacement. It seems like ReMarkable is the next best thing. I watched the demonstration videos, and it looks like a fantastic product.

I was disappointed, however, to read that you can't just transfer files to and from your computer - instead having to do that exclusively through the software. I hope that is something that will be changed in the future.

Also, I am wondering about privacy and security. Is there any encryption available? (Either for individual files or for the whole device?) And how secure and private will documents be if they are stored on ReMarkable's servers? Would I be able to safely work on 'sensitive' documents on the ReMarkable? Do all files automatically get uploaded to the cloud? Any way to at least just keep sensitive files local to the device and desktop?
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