B&N to release NOOK GlowLight 3

[ZodWallop]

Originally Posted by javyn

Overall I still consider it more open due to the file format. You just aren't going to find too much mobi, and whatever that new Amazon format you mention is that I've never even heard of, outside of Amazon's sphere.

File format is irrelevant, I think. I buy my books from Amazon and convert them to epub, easy peasy. If you are sideloading, you can convert your epub to the appropriate Kindle format with Calibre. If you aren't sideloading, you can't edit the book anyway.

Both devices have locked down OSes. The only difference is that the Kindle allows you to sideload to your heart's content and the Nook is partitioned.

Understand, I prefer Nooks to Kindles. I think from the hardware standpoint, Barnes and Noble have usually been ahead of Amazon. But when comparing the two, be honest.

[barryem]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

There's no way I would pay for B&N's stupidity. All that's doing is telling B&N that it's OK to be stupid and partition the memory.

Wow! I sure have to agree with that! No Nook! And I can't pay Kobo for creating a reader that's buggy! And I can't pay Amazon for creating a reader that doesn't have a built-in inflatable recliner. And I sure don't want one that's not supported in the USA so I can't get one of the off-brand readers.

I guess I better go back to paper books. But wait!!! I can't really read paper books easily anymore.

I know what I can do. I'll shoplift my next reader.

But wait!!! I don't have a car to get to the shop. I can't buy a GM car because Ford had a better idea. I can't buy a Chrysler product because they're pretty stupid. I can't buy a Ford. I'm not sure why but I'll think of something. Toyotas are made by people with funny looking eyes so they're out. Same for Nissan. German cars; well, I'm Jewish. I guess I'll have to walk.

But where can I get shoes made by someone whose politics and religion and honesty are acceptable to me? Oh Diogenes, please guide me!

Or I guess I could just decide to ignore all that and have a good life instead.

Barry

[ZodWallop]

Originally Posted by barryem

Wow! I sure have to agree with that! No Nook! And I can't pay Kobo for creating a reader that's buggy! And I can't pay Amazon for creating a reader that doesn't have a built-in inflatable recliner. And I sure don't want one that's not supported in the USA so I can't get one of the off-brand readers.

[barryem]

Originally Posted by Calenorn

Your relentless criticism and negativity are not helping. If you have no interest in buying or using this device, then why waste your time (and ours) continually tearing it down?

While I make fun of Wolfe as much as anyone, maybe more, I think this is a bit unfair. yeah he's repetitive and opinionated but he's fun and he's not a bad guy. Also he knows a lot about this stuff.

For a lot of years I was in a book related chat room that he also frequented and he had a way of getting discussions started and keeping things interesting. And I learned a lot of what little I know about book formats from him. He always went out of his way to help people who needed it in that chat room, when he wasn't too busy arguing with me.

Personally I'm glad he's here. I'm not always glad, but I am a lot.

Barry (aka Really)

[javyn]

Originally Posted by ZodWallop

File format is irrelevant, I think. I buy my books from Amazon and convert them to epub, easy peasy. If you are sideloading, you can convert your epub to the appropriate Kindle format with Calibre. If you aren't sideloading, you can't edit the book anyway.

Both devices have locked down OSes. The only difference is that the Kindle allows you to sideload to your heart's content and the Nook is partitioned.

Understand, I prefer Nooks to Kindles. I think from the hardware standpoint, Barnes and Noble have usually been ahead of Amazon. But when comparing the two, be honest.

I imagine unlocking the DRM to be able to do that though is tedious to say the least. Also, after so many years, I have little interest in converting all my files to mobi

[Terisa de morgan]

Originally Posted by javyn

I imagine unlocking the DRM to be able to do that though is tedious to say the least. Also, after so many years, I have little interest in converting all my files to mobi

You imagine wrong Anyway, the second part, I totally understand it.

[Tony1988]

Since I don't sideload anymore it wouldn't be an issue for me. Barnes and Noble pretty much has everything I would ever want to read. I only load books by wifi now. I rarely even get on my computer anymore just my smartphone for internet access. So no big deal to me. Have books on an old Nook Account as well as my Amazon account. If I was in the market for a new reader I would buy the Nook no question.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by javyn

I don't quite understand the complaining over the side loading limit. This is a BN device, you should be happy they give you any space for side loading at all. This is still more open than an Amazon device since it reads epubs and you aren't stuck with mobi.

Turn that around and argue that the Amazon device is more open since it reads mobi and you are stuck with epub. Ridiculous either way. And then we have calibre (and Apprentice Alf) which lets us convert formats as needed.

Originally Posted by javyn

I side load a lot of content, and the 1 gig isn't going to be a problem for me. Hell, having half of that on my ST was never a problem. The device just isn't going to keep up trying to index over a gig of books. Heh, when my friend stuck a 4 gig SD card full of books into his ST, the OS crapped itself. I ended up just using the SD card I bought for my Nook ST for something else, so lack of a microSD on the 3 doesn't mean anything to me either.

Your usage pattern might not match others. For me, if I can't stuff at least a dozen foodie books on an ereader, it's not worth buying.

Originally Posted by javyn

edit: Also, I don't understand what kinda lunatic tries to read PDFs on an e-ink device. I use a full size, mid-range Samsung tablet for that.

An iPad Pro works well for me but my pdfs are tech manuals. I keep them on my KA1 as well since if I don't have my iPad or laptop with me, the KA1 is usable -- not enjoyable -- just usable. Though at times, I wonder about some companies -- I have one manual that is formatted for tabloid/A3 size paper which is great for the printed diagrams but damn useless on any screen display unless you really enjoy scrolling and squinting.

[Sirtel]

I would like to know if the new Nook always shows header and footer even with sideloaded epubs or is there a way to remove them?

I rather like the shape of the device, but this header-footer thing is a potential dealbreaker. So much wasted space.

[Calenorn]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

I would like to know if the new Nook always shows header and footer even with sideloaded epubs or is there a way to remove them?

I rather like the shape of the device, but this header-footer thing is a potential dealbreaker. So much wasted space.

So far the Glowlight 3 shows title at top and page number at bottom in all the books I've used, either downloaded or side loaded. There is no obvious setting to allow you to choose not to display them. It would be a nice option to add; hopefully B&N will continue to update the software.

[Calenorn]

Originally Posted by barryem

While I make fun of Wolfe as much as anyone, maybe more, I think this is a bit unfair. yeah he's repetitive and opinionated but he's fun and he's not a bad guy.
Barry (aka Really)

Thanks, Barry. Lacking your previous experiences, I'll take your word for it.

But I've learned my lesson. Sometimes it isn't worth trying.

[ZodWallop]

Originally Posted by javyn

I imagine unlocking the DRM to be able to do that though is tedious to say the least.

Time to re-imagine. Removing the DRM is as easy to do from an Amazon book as it is from a B&N book.

Also, after so many years, I have little interest in converting all my files to mobi

I can't fault you there. But with Calibre, I use a plug in that converts my ePub to Kepub automagically when I send the books to my Kobo. They show up on the Kobo as Kepubs, while on my PC they are still ePub.

I'd assume there is a similar plug-in for Kindle.

I'm not trying to push you away from B&N and Nook. Just trying to be fair to both devices.

[javyn]

Originally Posted by ZodWallop

Time to re-imagine. Removing the DRM is as easy to do from an Amazon book as it is from a B&N book.

LOL, I assumed it was just as easy/difficult. I tried stripping the DRM years ago with a Calibre plugin and it was frustrating to say the least. It worked, but it was a PITA heh

I'm not trying to push you away from B&N and Nook. Just trying to be fair to both devices.

Oh no, I understand.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by ZodWallop

What is the best front light in the business and how did you reach your conclusion?

I didn't say it was poor or not good. To be the best, it has to be better then every other front light and it's not. I don't think there is the best.

Kobo has better software, but the Glowlight 3 outclasses the Aura Edition 2 in every way. While I like the Kobo software, I'd give it up today for the Glowlight 3 if they hadn't so severely partitioned the memory.

So the nG3's partitioned memory is better then the Aura2's non-partitioned memory?

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by Calenorn

So far the Glowlight 3 shows title at top and page number at bottom in all the books I've used, either downloaded or side loaded. There is no obvious setting to allow you to choose not to display them. It would be a nice option to add; hopefully B&N will continue to update the software.

Thank you.

That's disappointing.