The Dreaded Em Dash - Page 3

AuthorGreg · 07-22-2012, 12:18 PM

Um, gee, how've I ignored anyone's advice?

Be nice.

Thanks, everyone!

Greg

DiapDealer · 07-22-2012, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AuthorGreg

Um, gee, how've I ignored anyone's advice?

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

If you can track down a free (or very cheap) example (even if it's DRM'ed) of an ePub where the em-dashes do display properly, I'm sure someone might be willing to "purchase" it and might be able to track down what is going on.

Just sayin'.

You don't have to go this alone. Allow more eyes to view the code in the ePubs where em-dashes ARE being displayed properly on the Nook Simple Touch ("out of the box," so to speak) and you'd be surprised out how quickly the issue could be resolved.

ldolse · 07-22-2012, 01:07 PM

Not trying to be rude, just trying to point you in a constructive direction - currently the thread is a case of the blind leading the blind - we're blind because basically the lights are turned off, you're blind because you're relatively new to all this. We're just trying to point you to a light switch so we don't have to keep fumbling around in the dark.

In addition to DiapDealer's example, I asked you to try two different options regarding fonts - change the Nook preferences (six different fonts are supported), or try an embedded font using Sigil, which extremely common in retail ePubs.

PeterT pointed you in the right direction to remove the DRM on your own books.

AuthorGreg · 07-22-2012, 01:41 PM

Ummmm....

I've downloaded and have used Sigil. I've sent my ePub to a couple of folks, but I can't openly post it, otherwise Amazon will penalize me and make my book free. I thought I had mentioned that.

Anyway, I'm going to experiment with a short story I have that doesn't sell at all, and I'll share the results.

I believe I also mentioned that asking a writer to compose a novel in straight HTML is more than a tad unreasonable. But when going "nuclear" on a Word doc, it might not be too much to ask. I've learned to use Word by implementing as few styles as possible. In my Word docs you won't find any extraneous page returns or too many styles, although I know that following the best practices won't prevent Word from really screwing around with a doc file. The corrupt TOC it produces, with all the hidden TOC entries, is but one example.

So yes, I've learned, and as I continue to learn, I will share with all what I have learned.

All you guys rock!

Thanks,

Greg

JSWolf · 07-22-2012, 03:48 PM

AuthorGreg ... please post a sample ePub file that has an issue with em dash on a nook. Let us have a look and see what seems to be the problem. That way, you can then hopefully make ePub that has good code under the hood for when you post it at B&N & Kobo.

HarryT · 07-23-2012, 03:04 AM

Greg,

Given that it's your book creation process that seems to be causing the problem, just write some arbitrary paragraph containing dashes and turn that into an eBook using your normal production process, and post that.

07-22-2012, 01:07 PM	#33
ldolse Wizard Posts: 1,337 Karma: 123455 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Malaysia Device: PRS-650, iPhone	Not trying to be rude, just trying to point you in a constructive direction - currently the thread is a case of the blind leading the blind - we're blind because basically the lights are turned off, you're blind because you're relatively new to all this. We're just trying to point you to a light switch so we don't have to keep fumbling around in the dark. In addition to DiapDealer's example, I asked you to try two different options regarding fonts - change the Nook preferences (six different fonts are supported), or try an embedded font using Sigil, which extremely common in retail ePubs. PeterT pointed you in the right direction to remove the DRM on your own books. Last edited by ldolse; 07-22-2012 at 01:10 PM.

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07-22-2012, 12:18 PM	#31
AuthorGreg Connoisseur Posts: 61 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2012 Device: Nook Simple Touch, Kindle 2nd Gen, Kindle 7" Fire HD	Um, gee, how've I ignored anyone's advice? Be nice. Thanks, everyone! Greg

07-22-2012, 01:41 PM	#34
AuthorGreg Connoisseur Posts: 61 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2012 Device: Nook Simple Touch, Kindle 2nd Gen, Kindle 7" Fire HD	Ummmm.... I've downloaded and have used Sigil. I've sent my ePub to a couple of folks, but I can't openly post it, otherwise Amazon will penalize me and make my book free. I thought I had mentioned that. Anyway, I'm going to experiment with a short story I have that doesn't sell at all, and I'll share the results. I believe I also mentioned that asking a writer to compose a novel in straight HTML is more than a tad unreasonable. But when going "nuclear" on a Word doc, it might not be too much to ask. I've learned to use Word by implementing as few styles as possible. In my Word docs you won't find any extraneous page returns or too many styles, although I know that following the best practices won't prevent Word from really screwing around with a doc file. The corrupt TOC it produces, with all the hidden TOC entries, is but one example. So yes, I've learned, and as I continue to learn, I will share with all what I have learned. All you guys rock! Thanks, Greg

07-22-2012, 03:48 PM	#35
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,941 Karma: 128903250 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	AuthorGreg ... please post a sample ePub file that has an issue with em dash on a nook. Let us have a look and see what seems to be the problem. That way, you can then hopefully make ePub that has good code under the hood for when you post it at B&N & Kobo.

07-23-2012, 03:04 AM	#36
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Greg, Given that it's your book creation process that seems to be causing the problem, just write some arbitrary paragraph containing dashes and turn that into an eBook using your normal production process, and post that.