EPUB to mobi - new line after every bullet

[zippitydoda]

I’m trying to convent from an EPUB document to a mobi document. Everything works great except Calibre adds a new line after every bullet in the list. Is there an option in Calibre to fix this?

Thanks.

[speakingtohe]

Try remove space after paragraph under look and feel?

Helen

[zippitydoda]

I tried the option to remove space after paragraph, but that didn't work. There is still a Line
feed after every bullet and number. Any other thoughts?

[speakingtohe]

Search and replace?

[eping]

It's a bug of Kindle, not Calibre.
The same file will show with no problem on Kindle Fire.

[dwig]

Originally Posted by zippitydoda

I tried the option to remove space after paragraph, but that didn't work. There is still a Line
feed after every bullet and number. Any other thoughts?

How are you coding your list??

This code produces no extra line between bullet items when converted ePub>MOBI with either Calibre 0.8.44 or KindleGen2 (via Previewer 2):

<p>Bullet (unordered list):</p>
<ul>
  <li>Item 1</li>
  <li>Item 2</li>
  <li>Item 3</li>
</ul>
<p>what does it look like?? </p>

If you are referring to the "extra" blank line before and after the whole list, that's default behavior in the Kindle readers and most browsers. If you want to remove those spaces you need to style the <ul> tag. With this in the CSS the block of list items is set tight to be paragraph before and after:

ul {
  margin-top: 0m;
  margin-bottom: 0m;
  }

(note: The display in Sigil does not respect this CSS although ADE (on Windows) and calibre's ePub>MOBI conversion engine do.)

Interestingly, even without the CSS, the Preview/KindleGen2 conversion resulted in 1em spaces before and after the <UL> block when viewed on the Fire (KF8 partition) but was set tight as if the CSS was present when viewed on a K3 (PRC/MOBI partition)

[zippitydoda]

I don’t know if it’s a bug in Calibre or how styles are interpreted.

I do know that the EPUB document is displayed properly using the Sony Reader Library Version 3.3, and Calibre Version 0.8.44 E-Book Viewer.

After converting the document from EPUB to the Mobi format (default settings), I viewed the Mobi document using the following: Kindle PC Version 1.8.3, Kindle Previewer Version 2.31, Kindle Fire and Kindle Keyboard. All of these had a new line inserted after every bullet and numbered paragraph.

I even did a conversion to the HTMLZ format and viewed the HTML document with Google Chrome, and it still had the same problem.

I have looked at the HTML code (EPUB, HTMLZ), and they are very similar. So at this point I’m assuming it has something to do with how Calibre interprets styles during the conversion process.

[zippitydoda]

I don't have control of the source (EPUB file). I'm pulling the document from the web.

[theducks]

Originally Posted by zippitydoda

I don't have control of the source (EPUB file). I'm pulling the document from the web.

Sure you do, unless it is equipped with DRM (Which would also prevent conversion unless you did remove it. Then you have gained back control of the CSS )

Use the Tweak feature, and EDIT the CSS (or use Sigil to get at the whole EPUB).
Then convert to whatever format.

[zippitydoda]

I don't know if this helps or not.
The following is from the original EPUB document.

<div class="LISTbullet">
	<div class="listItem">
		<p class="label">•</p>
		<p id="lds-38"> Text Text Text</p>	
	</div>
	<div class="listItem">
		<p class="label">•</p>
		<p id="lds-39">Text Text Text</p>
	</div>
	<div class="listItem">
		<p class="label">•</p>
		<p id="lds-40">Text Text Text</p>
	</div>			
	<div class="listItem">
		<p class="label">•</p>
		<p id="lds-41">Text Text Text</p>
	</div>
	<div class="listItem">
		<p class="label">•</p>
		<p id="lds-42">Text Text Text</p>
	</div>
	<div class="listItem">
		<p class="label">•</p>
		<p id="lds-43">Text Text Text</p>
	</div>
</div>

This is what is looks like after I use Calibre to convert from EPUB to HTMLZ

<div class="titleBlock">
	<div class="titleBlock">
		<p class="seriesTitle">•</p>
		<p id="calibre_link-655" class="seriesTitle">Text Text Text</p>
	</div>
	<div class="titleBlock">
		<p class="seriesTitle">•</p>
		<p id="calibre_link-656" class="seriesTitle">Text Text Text</p>
	</div>
	<div class="titleBlock">
		<p class="seriesTitle">•</p>
		<p id="calibre_link-657" class="seriesTitle">Text Text Text</p>
	</div>
	<div class="titleBlock">
		<p class="seriesTitle">•</p>
		<p id="calibre_link-658" class="seriesTitle">Text Text Text</p>
	</div>
	<div class="titleBlock">
		<p class="seriesTitle">•</p>
		<p id="calibre_link-659" class="seriesTitle">Text Text Text</p>
	</div>
	<div class="titleBlock">
		<p class="seriesTitle">•</p>
		<p id="calibre_link-660" class="seriesTitle">Text Text Text</p>
	</div>
</div>

[theducks]

<div class="listItem">
		<p class="label">•</p>
		<p id="lds-39">Text Text Text</p>
	</div>

It is a faked list
This is 2 paragraphs (and not a standard HTML bullet list to boot). Which is why 2 lines

This is one way for a single line

<div class="listItem">
		<p class="label" id="lds-39">• <span class="if_needed">
		Text Text Text</span></p>
	</div>

class if_needed allow you to control padding, font... for the text

[ame67]

Originally Posted by dwig

How are you coding your list??

This code produces no extra line between bullet items when converted ePub>MOBI with either Calibre 0.8.44 or KindleGen2 (via Previewer 2):

<p>Bullet (unordered list):</p>
<ul>
  <li>Item 1</li>
  <li>Item 2</li>
  <li>Item 3</li>
</ul>
<p>what does it look like?? </p>

If you are referring to the "extra" blank line before and after the whole list, that's default behavior in the Kindle readers and most browsers. If you want to remove those spaces you need to style the <ul> tag. With this in the CSS the block of list items is set tight to be paragraph before and after:

ul {
  margin-top: 0m;
  margin-bottom: 0m;
  }

(note: The display in Sigil does not respect this CSS although ADE (on Windows) and calibre's ePub>MOBI conversion engine do.)

Interestingly, even without the CSS, the Preview/KindleGen2 conversion resulted in 1em spaces before and after the <UL> block when viewed on the Fire (KF8 partition) but was set tight as if the CSS was present when viewed on a K3 (PRC/MOBI partition)

I was having the issue with the extra space before and after bullet lists and found that the top and bottom margin elements of the ul were no defined in my epub. When I set these the extra space was removed when I converted to mobi format in calibre.
Thanks for this

[amo48]

Originally Posted by zippitydoda

I tried the option to remove space after paragraph, but that didn't work. There is still a Line
feed after every bullet and number. Any other thoughts?

You really need to look at the document in "code view" to see why this is happening. I think you would need to go in and delete XHTML <p> and </p> tags or <br> tags that appear in the text of the document. But you can't do this in Calibre. Bring up the file in Sigil (download this app if you don't have it), switch the view to "code view" and delete the appropriate tags. The extra lines should disappear.

[maff]

I am also have the same problem with my EPUB files converted to MOBI using Calibre. The bullets display on a paragraph of their own. The attached photo shows an example (apologies for the quality!)

I have checked the EPUB file using Sigil and the lists are coded correctly:

<p>Focusing back on London, the Market can be divided broadly into three categories of insurers:</p>

<ul>
<li>
<p>those operating in Lloyd’s;</p>
</li>

<li>
<p>insurance companies; and</p>
</li>

<li>
<p>mutual insurers.</p>
</li>
</ul>

Interestingly, the Kindle app does not display this error, and renders the list correctly. (See screen grab)

I'd be grateful for any help.

[itimpi]

I think it is the <p> tags around the <li> text that is causing your problem. It is not unusual for a <p> tag to generate a new line at the display level. What is correct behaviour in this case I have no idea - I suspect it is implementation defined.