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Old 02-13-2020, 05:36 PM   #1
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epub popup footnote background color

Can the popup have a different background color?
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Old 02-13-2020, 07:50 PM   #2
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Can the popup have a different background color?
Depends on the renderer and your CSS. Generally, I dislike backgrounds since most of my ereading is done on eInk displays. Grey on grey is not a good recipe for legibility.
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I read somewhere there's more than one shade of grey/gray

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Old 02-13-2020, 09:26 PM   #4
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I read somewhere there's more than one shade of grey/gray.
For some people, a colored background can be hard to read. So the rule is don't do it because you could be causing problems for some of your readers.
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Old 02-14-2020, 03:50 PM   #5
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I read somewhere there's more than one shade of grey/gray
With eInk, you get either 8 or 16 shades of gray. What are the chances that converting as an example, blue text on a yellow background to a 16 level gray scale is going to use shades of gray that have sufficient contrast to be easily readable? BTW, that is a real example from one ebook I recently read.

I never did finish 50 Shades of Grey. Just not my cuppa despite several friends highly recommending it.
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Some ereaders have a night mode where it's white text on a black background (or maybe it's ereader software on tablets and phones). A footnote with a background color probably won't come out correctly in that situation.
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IMO ereaders should have an option to present notes as 'footnotes' - i.e. at the bottom of the screen, preferably in a smaller font - like the calibre viewer once did Ψ³

If anyone knows of one please let me know.

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- too much sugar in it for me.

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Old 02-15-2020, 08:33 PM   #8
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Hi

For what I can see, the same note on an ePub3 can today be displayed differently
- as a pop-up note (Calibre viewer)
- as an in-page note (Koreader)
- as a "classic" note (- converted- with Prince PDF)

I do not know yet of any option on any device/sofware that could let the user choose between the first two. It would certainly be great. Some books make use both of informative footnotes and , say, bibliographical endnotes, which could justify a diiferent rendering.
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- as an in-page note (Koreader)
I didn't know that.

I've shied away from KOReader- mainly that I 'want' something that's like a paper book - in the sense that it just works. The thought of adding stuff to an e-reader goes against the grain; well, my grain at least :lol:

But I'll have a look at it on my android phone.

Do I have a book with note-links and bibliography-links, not sure I do - one would hope they'd be distinguishable - but how I wonder.

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Here

https://github.com/koreader/koreader...page-footnotes
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Old 02-16-2020, 02:56 PM   #11
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- as an in-page note (Koreader)
That's glorious. I didn't know about this functionality either.

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I do not know yet of any option on any device/sofware that could let the user choose between the first two. It would certainly be great. Some books make use both of informative footnotes and , say, bibliographical endnotes, which could justify a diiferent rendering.
I always think back to the in-depth footnotes discussion from back in 2014, "Pop-up notes for iPad" (especially Posts #47+, between Paterson+me).

I haven't really seen much work done at all since then, besides more readers implementing popup footnotes via heuristics (Amazon/Kindle, Calibre).

Ultimately, like we discussed in that topic, it would be nice to be able to choose between all different renderings.

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And on a semi-related note:

I only just noticed that Calibre Editor's Tools > Reports > Links added a little preview at the bottom!

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You click on a link, and can see a preview of what the link actually points to.

Absolutely fantastic, and I wonder when this was added.

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... Ultimately, like we discussed in that topic, it would be nice to be able to choose between all different renderings.
I just want what I want, bugger the rest of you

For some unbeknown reason my brain barfs on having a zillion options on a handheld device, don't like those Leatherman gadgets either.

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... I only just noticed that Calibre Editor's Tools > Reports > Links added a little preview at the bottom!

You click on a link, and can see a preview of what the link actually points to.

Absolutely fantastic, and I wonder when this was added.
I think it's been there since the calibre editor was first released, its definitely there in 2.85. It's what I'd like to have in the calbre-viewer and an ereader. I've noticed it does not need sup tags wrapped around the note number - not even in version 4 Ψ³

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