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edit: Organize and tag my books from work without the bosses knowing. Have full control over how I present my own internal library. Last edited by BetterRed; 08-04-2018 at 06:36 PM. Reason: Remove Thread Icon |
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Just a quick test, I looked for all the books that I own in the 1632 series. Calibre: open calibre (4.36 seconds), click on search splat, type 1632 in series, hit okay. 26 results on screen in less than 0.1 of a second. Total ~5 seconds. File Explorer: Opened D drive and browsed to the calibre libraries backup directory. ~3 seconds. No way to browse to the series so typed 1632 in the Windows search box. 20 seconds later, had 25 results. Total time ~23 seconds. Not sure why 1 book didn't show up -- I checked and it's had the series prepend. Please note my D drive is removable and not indexed or the search times would have be lower. If I did not have the template for save to disk set to prepend the series, I would have been forced to click through multiple directories to find all the books since Eric Flint's who created the series is not the author of all the books -- I list 6 different primary authors and 11 secondary authors with 14 books listing two or more authors and would have had to remember the majority of those names. If I had wanted to copy any of these books to my ereader,? Calibre? Plug the ereader in, select the files that weren't already on it, right click, send to device, safely disconnect, reconnect and update metadata, no muss, no fuss. Doing the same from File Explorer? No indication if the files on on the ereader, multiple directories to deal with. Update metadata and series info (important to those of us who have ereaders that will let us see the series information, sort on it and search on it)? Perhaps you would let me know how you handle that? For me, calibre wins hands down for speed and convenience. Who really cares if you are not supposed to get your sticky fingers on its internal directory/file structure when you can export your library and create your own file and directory structure there. My purpose in owning an ereader is to read with it not to worry that directory structures aren't created in a way I think would look pretty/elegant. |
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I don't even have to touch a mouse. Good for you. Personally I have no need for calibre but I'm currently using it again so I can test out using google cloud drive with it. It's not *bad* software tho it has some lame design choices but its' not the end all, be all of ebook management, despite the feelings of people who don't know anything else but windows. Personally, I found it acceptable even handling the large number of books I loaded into it but the time it would take to load at that point meant that I was obligated to leave it open all the time or wait 15 minutes for it to load. I don't blame calibre, I was impressed it could handle what it did but at that point, it was faster for me to sideload manually but I don't mind at all. Last edited by sealbeater; 08-04-2018 at 03:36 PM. Reason: Had to expand on a point. |
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I think I would be faster than you. |
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All of my books have this format: Anja Jonuleit/Anja Jonuleit - Novemberasche - Kriminalroman (2010)[9783423405638].epub If it's a series: Gav Thorpe - [Time of Legends - The Sundering #1] - Malekith (2008) [9788448038373].epub so I can just go, as stated "cd library ; find . -name "Time of Legends*epub" | parallel cp -rv {} /mnt/bookreader. I don't care if it's on my bookreader already or not. Why would I? I can search by any field, ISBN, author, series. Once you have very many books, I personally have just found it's easier to deal with them that way than wait for calibre. Of course, small libraries will load calibre quickly but I find command line operations to be faster in general. |
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With the large library on a physical machine, 0.06] Initializing db... [0.39] db initialized". With a 7 book library on a VM, [0.06] Initializing db... [0.08] db initialized Quote:
While I can make a fire by using flint and steel or a fire bow. I prefer to use a lighter when one is available. And I still find it humourous that you claim to be able to handle those tasks even using scripts in under 5 seconds. As I said, if nothing else, calibre handles the series information for a Kobo ereader in a much more pleasant fashion than editing the SQLite database. How does your script handle downloading, resizing and inserting covers into the ebook? The same for metadata such as series. Quote:
As for using Google cloud drive with calibre? The first question is what are you calling Google cloud drive? Google Drive for home users? Google Cloud Storage for enterprises? A utility that maps Google Drive as a storage device? The last time I tested on a computer where Google Drive was used to sync, as long as a single computer is used and synchronization was paused before calibre was started and restarted after calibre exited, it seems to work (a batch file took care of that when I was doing some testing). My library backups are synced to the cloud but I found no real advantage to using cloud storage for my live calibre instance. Last edited by DNSB; 08-04-2018 at 04:27 PM. |
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As for whether or not, it is on your bookreader? I prefer not to accidentally copy over an existing book. YMMV. As for the library size effect on load times? 9861 books gives .33 seconds for the database, in a VM, 7 books gives .02 seconds for the database. Last edited by DNSB; 08-04-2018 at 04:33 PM. |
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With Calibre you can combine various search criteria, use regular expressions, ask Calibre to download the metadata for the book from the net, find duplicates using fuzzy soundex search ... I have been using Calibre as a conversion tool too. Then I started to use it to manage my books and never looked back. The main GUI interface is customizable and you can also use powerful commandline tools installed with Calibre. By the way ... ever since I got Internet connection at home (at about 2002) I have been running my main desktop on FreeBSD and then Linux. I was dualbooting before that. |
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to find what I need. I don't have to do anything but load books and read them. Quote:
Well, tell you what, I'm currently loading the A*s into calibre. When that's done, (I'm on record 16033, at the moment), I'll time how long it takes calibre to load and I'll report back as I go though the B* and C* and so on. Quote:
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I'm actually still in the process of sorted my main library, so once I do that, I'll upload to gcloud just to offset my local storage. My main library is pretty big I'm just testing calibre to make sure it works as expected, which so far, it has. I may keep it, I may not. |
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That's awesome, I've been using *nix exclusively since 1993. |
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Multiple authors: Stan Berenstain, Jan Berenstain - The Bike Lesson (The Berenstain Bears Beginner Books) (1964) [9780375983276].epub Pushing the 255 finename limit (ZFS is 256): ./George R. R. Martin, Gardner Dozois, Diana Rowland, Diana Gabaldon, Carrie Vaughn, Joe R. Lansd/George R. R. Martin, Gardner Dozois, Diana Rowland, Diana Gabaldon, Carrie Vaughn, Joe R. Lansd - Dangerous Women (Dangerous Women Anthology) (2013) [9780007549405].mobi Interestingly, I have different info than you for "A Warlock in Absentia" Christopher Stasheff - [Rogue Wizard #1] - A Wizard in Absentia (1993) [9 780441515691].epub but the first in "The Warlocks Heirs": Christopher Stasheff - [Warlock's Heirs #1] - M'Lady Witch (1994) [0441001130].epub So, I wonder why the discrepancy. Which of us is wrong? Quote:
Yes, I'm well aware that the number of books increases load time. That's exactly what I have been saying. Thank you for saying it in a different way. Once again, without going to exact or even close to exact numbers, 10,000 books isn't even half a percentage point to me. |
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Another long mulitple author book.
./Cindy Roland Anderson, Cami Checketts, Kimberley Montpetit, Taylor Hart, Jeanette Lewis, Lucy M/Cindy Roland Anderson, Cami Checketts, Kimberley Montpetit, Taylor Hart, Jeanette Lewis, Lucy M - Christmas in Snow Valley - A Christmas Romance Anthology (Snow Valley Romance Anthologies) (2014) [9781502450319].azw3 |
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Edit: extrapolating for your ~2,000,000 books, this would bring the database size to ~3.9GB (well below the SQLite maximum of ~140TB). I did some playing with various library sizes and reading the load time at startup seemed to be pretty much linear so that would take about 69 seconds to load so calibre would start in 73 seconds. Quote:
As for digging through a directory structure to find an ebook to read? Ken Maltby and I had a couple of go-arounds years back comparing my use of search on my Kobo using the stock firmware compared to him locating books using KOReader's file browser. Basically, it took a lot less time and taps to use search compared to digging through multiple pages of directory listings. Perhaps that is why KOReader added the abiltiy to search the calibre database stored on the ereader.... Quote:
Have fun. Last edited by DNSB; 08-04-2018 at 10:52 PM. |
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That's actually about right, with about .5 million sorted and deduped. Its' an ongoing process but I love it, so much fun. I'm not sure what the final number will be, I was loading everything into calibre and doing all my metadata type stuff just like you guys but I found a better way and I decided to blow my calibre library away and start over from scratch. I'm not sure what the exact number of sorted books is now since the reboot but I have started to load into calibre now so I'll be using that to remove foreign language books, merge and so on, however I will be keeping mulitple formats so that will skew the numbers. I'll be happy to report on calibre's performance as I do so, with the caveant of Calibre having to deal with network traffic as it loads since I'm not maintaining two local copies. Quote:
As for finding the time, I subscribe to the "anti-library" approach. I do collect from whatever sources I can, I am in progress building a book scanner for some very good 1920s engineering books I want to get into my library. Thank you, I am having lots of fun and plan on continuing to do so. |
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