Penguin no longer participates in Overdrive Library Service

Fbone · 11-21-2011, 01:59 PM

Today, there have been reports that Penguin US have removed all their titles from Overdrive Kindle format. Epubs are still available.

If you have a title on reserve, it may be unavailable or switched to epub.

I haven't found any media reports from Penguin or Overdrive yet.

MrsJoseph · 11-21-2011, 02:06 PM

I wonder what this will mean...if anything at all.

DiapDealer · 11-21-2011, 02:25 PM

I would think it would be an all or nothing situation. That they would allow library lending or they wouldn't. Stupider situations have certainly arisen, though, so I refuse to be surprised regardless of how it pans out.

Fbone · 11-21-2011, 02:27 PM

Here are the Amazon forum members discussing it ...

http://www.amazon.com/forum/kindle?_...x1I6JSIBWTLK06

Nyssa · 11-21-2011, 02:34 PM

Wait, isn't Penguin exclusive to B&N? I'm trying to think if I've seen them anywhere else.... If so, that would explain why. Maybe B&N was able to hit them with a cease and desist or something.

This change might help B&N but it certainly won't help Penguin.

DiapDealer · 11-21-2011, 02:47 PM

I absolutely hate the entire publishing landscape right now. Somebody wake me up when this crap has been sorted and ebooks are no longer the devil.

Can't buy the ebook unless you have the correct address... can't borrow the ebook unless you have a certain eReader. It's no wonder people just give up and pirate.

Fbone · 11-21-2011, 03:04 PM

The Help is available at Amazon, Kobo and Sony so I don't think it would be an exclusive.

soondai · 11-21-2011, 04:06 PM

Interesting. There have been a few titles that showed up over the last month or two at my library that were not available to borrow thru Amazon.

One that I remember was "Better Angels of Our Nature" by Pinker. It's published by Viking (which falls under Penguin).

NNolan · 11-21-2011, 04:19 PM

http://www.thedigitalshift.com/2011/...-ebook-titles/

I guess it's back to Penguin hard covers from the library for me.

DustyDisks · 11-21-2011, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NNolan

http://www.thedigitalshift.com/2011/...-ebook-titles/

I guess it's back to Penguin hard covers from the library for me.

Sounds like they want find stronger drm and such. Must be too many ebooks are getting hacked and then passed out on the sharing networks. You can not stuff a hard copy of a book down a wire or air wave.

They want the money, honey!

DiapDealer · 11-21-2011, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NNolan

http://www.thedigitalshift.com/2011/...-ebook-titles/

I guess it's back to Penguin hard covers from the library for me.

That article claims it's all Penguin Digital formats, but that's just not holding up to scrutiny. There are plenty of Penguin titles still available in Adobe ePub at my libraries, while none can be found in Kindle format.

HarleyB · 11-21-2011, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

I absolutely hate the entire publishing landscape right now. Somebody wake me up when this crap has been sorted and ebooks are no longer the devil.

Can't buy the ebook unless you have the correct address... can't borrow the ebook unless you have a certain eReader. It's no wonder people just give up and pirate.

Exactly!
I believe that most people will choose the ereader that works best for them. Then they just want to purchase ebooks easily at a fair price and possibly borrow them from the library. They don't want to find that the book they want to read is twice the price to purchase in the format they need, or not available because of where they live.
Why does it have to be so hard?

Fbone · 11-21-2011, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

That article claims it's all Penguin Digital formats, but that's just not holding up to scrutiny. There are plenty of Penguin titles still available in Adobe ePub at my libraries, while none can be found in Kindle format.

All new titles won't be available. Plus, all Kindle format titles will be removed.

piper28 · 11-21-2011, 04:47 PM

I didn't know who it was, but I did notice within the last week or so that suddenly the number of kindle versions of the books at my library dropped by at least 300 or so. So I'm guessing it must have been this. I'll have to check, I think I had a couple of them in my wish list that the kindle option disappeared from, have to check the publisher.

JSWolf · 11-21-2011, 04:48 PM

By using the advanced search at Overdrive, I cannot search for any Mobipocket eBooks. So from what I gather, overdrive dropped all Mobipocket.

And it seems that Penguin Kindle eBooks are not available at libraries.

11-21-2011, 01:59 PM	#1
Fbone Is that a sandwich? Posts: 8,189 Karma: 100500000 Join Date: Jun 2010 Device: Nook Glowlight Plus	Penguin no longer participates in Overdrive Library Service Today, there have been reports that Penguin US have removed all their titles from Overdrive Kindle format. Epubs are still available. If you have a title on reserve, it may be unavailable or switched to epub. I haven't found any media reports from Penguin or Overdrive yet. Last edited by Fbone; 11-21-2011 at 02:24 PM.

11-21-2011, 02:06 PM	#2
MrsJoseph Loves Ellipsis... Posts: 1,554 Karma: 7899232 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Washington, DC Device: Kobo Wifi (broken), nook STR (returned), Kobo Touch, Sony T1	I wonder what this will mean...if anything at all. Last edited by MrsJoseph; 11-21-2011 at 02:06 PM. Reason: changed mind

11-21-2011, 04:19 PM	#9
NNolan Compulsive Gadget Geek Posts: 395 Karma: 4219324 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Almost Canada Device: One of each, and two in some cases	It might not be limited to Kindle editions http://www.thedigitalshift.com/2011/...-ebook-titles/ I guess it's back to Penguin hard covers from the library for me.

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11-21-2011, 02:25 PM	#3
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,546 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	I would think it would be an all or nothing situation. That they would allow library lending or they wouldn't. Stupider situations have certainly arisen, though, so I refuse to be surprised regardless of how it pans out.

11-21-2011, 02:27 PM	#4
Fbone Is that a sandwich? Posts: 8,189 Karma: 100500000 Join Date: Jun 2010 Device: Nook Glowlight Plus	Here are the Amazon forum members discussing it ... http://www.amazon.com/forum/kindle?_...x1I6JSIBWTLK06

11-21-2011, 02:34 PM	#5
Nyssa Series Addict Posts: 6,180 Karma: 167189477 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Florida, USA Device: Kindle Paperwhite (2nd Gen)	Wait, isn't Penguin exclusive to B&N? I'm trying to think if I've seen them anywhere else.... If so, that would explain why. Maybe B&N was able to hit them with a cease and desist or something. This change might help B&N but it certainly won't help Penguin.

11-21-2011, 02:47 PM	#6
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,546 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	I absolutely hate the entire publishing landscape right now. Somebody wake me up when this crap has been sorted and ebooks are no longer the devil. Can't buy the ebook unless you have the correct address... can't borrow the ebook unless you have a certain eReader. It's no wonder people just give up and pirate.

11-21-2011, 03:04 PM	#7
Fbone Is that a sandwich? Posts: 8,189 Karma: 100500000 Join Date: Jun 2010 Device: Nook Glowlight Plus	The Help is available at Amazon, Kobo and Sony so I don't think it would be an exclusive.

11-21-2011, 04:06 PM	#8
soondai Guru Posts: 672 Karma: 1109784 Join Date: Aug 2010 Device: Paperwhite	Interesting. There have been a few titles that showed up over the last month or two at my library that were not available to borrow thru Amazon. One that I remember was "Better Angels of Our Nature" by Pinker. It's published by Viking (which falls under Penguin).

11-21-2011, 04:47 PM	#14
piper28 Zealot Posts: 113 Karma: 1178328 Join Date: Feb 2011 Device: none	I didn't know who it was, but I did notice within the last week or so that suddenly the number of kindle versions of the books at my library dropped by at least 300 or so. So I'm guessing it must have been this. I'll have to check, I think I had a couple of them in my wish list that the kindle option disappeared from, have to check the publisher.

11-21-2011, 04:48 PM	#15
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,887 Karma: 128597114 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	By using the advanced search at Overdrive, I cannot search for any Mobipocket eBooks. So from what I gather, overdrive dropped all Mobipocket. And it seems that Penguin Kindle eBooks are not available at libraries.

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