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View Poll Results: Do you read ebooks borrowed from a library?
I regularly read ebooks borrowed from a library 94 58.02%
I seldom read ebooks borrowed from a library 18 11.11%
I never read ebooks borrowed from a library 42 25.93%
I would but my reader does not support this function 8 4.94%
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Old 08-04-2010, 03:53 PM   #61
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Hmmm. Are we back into this discussion again? Oh, that's right, you are saying ebooks tend to be cheaper than hard cover books. New cars are cheaper than hard cover pbooks. What you are NOT saying is that ebooks are cheaper than paper backs. And until they are, public library, here I come.
And you have access to Seattle's excellent e-book offerings. Currently over 15,500 titles many in multiple formats.
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Old 08-04-2010, 04:16 PM   #62
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And for all that aggravation and hassle, nine times out of ten, the *e-books* I like aren't available! No thank you. But if I'm going to waste all that gas and time for no reasonable return I'd rather just cough up the money for the purchase of the ebooks...
Um, I don't know what library YOU belong to, but most OTHER libraries allow access from your home computer. AS OTHERS HAVE STATED [and you obviously skipped over].
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Um, I don't know what library YOU belong to, but most OTHER libraries allow access from your home computer. AS OTHERS HAVE STATED [and you obviously skipped over].
As does ours - once you've gone through the hassle of showing up and proving you are who you say you are.

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Old 08-05-2010, 12:50 AM   #64
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Sadly, I had to select never - I would, if only there were any libraries in NZ that had ebooks ....
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Old 08-05-2010, 03:38 AM   #65
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Sadly, I had to select never - I would, if only there were any libraries in NZ that had ebooks ....
The big city libraries have audiobooks from Overdrive. I wonder if Overdrive is unable to offer e-books due to restrictions.

Have you asked your local library if it's possible?
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I decided I wanted to try out the Overdrive library, so bought a prs 300 to do so. It works, the selection is nice, but the format is bad. Very bad. I find I do not like the pdf and epub formats. Maybe I'm just used to my Kindle, but I prefer the it's format. I checked out 5 or 6 ebooks, returned the last one when I finished it, and went back to my Kindle.
You won't like PDF on any 5 or 6" eink screen.

As for not liking ePub, it's not ePub's fault, but the fault of the publisher poorly formatting the ePub eBooks. What I do is strip the DRM, fix up the CSS some and then I am good to go. I even strip the DRM n library eBooks otherwise, I would not be able to have a pleasurable read.
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Old 08-05-2010, 03:49 AM   #67
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I think the only thing I have against 'checking out' ebooks is that ebooks tend to be cheaper than hard cover books so there is that incentive to just *buy* the ebook and put a bit more money into the authors' pockets. Silly me, I should have pointed out that I am a publisher and want to see my authors make money.

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Actually, there are now a lot of eBooks that are more expensive then the paper edition. And if not more expensive, very much close to the paper price. A $7.99 eBook is more expensive then a $7.99 paperback as I can get a discount on the paperback, but chances are no discount on the eBook.
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You won't like PDF on any 5 or 6" eink screen.

As for not liking ePub, it's not ePub's fault, but the fault of the publisher poorly formatting the ePub eBooks. What I do is strip the DRM, fix up the CSS some and then I am good to go. I even strip the DRM n library eBooks otherwise, I would not be able to have a pleasurable read.
If you know how to get rid of that page number in the margin, using CSS, please share, preferably moving it to the bottom of the page.

Which you can't, and which is why I prefer PDF, specifically made up for a 5" screen (I found out it works perfectly on my 6" screen as well).

But I agree, PDF, not made specifically for a 5 or 6 inch screen, will almost never really look good.
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If you know how to get rid of that page number in the margin, using CSS, please share, preferably moving it to the bottom of the page.

Which you can't, and which is why I prefer PDF, specifically made up for a 5" screen (I found out it works perfectly on my 6" screen as well).

But I agree, PDF, not made specifically for a 5 or 6 inch screen, will almost never really look good.
To be honest, I just ignore the page number on the left. Sure, it sits on words, but I've rarely had a problem knowing what the word is under the number.
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To be honest, I just ignore the page number on the left. Sure, it sits on words, but I've rarely had a problem knowing what the word is under the number.
I find it highly annoying. Which is why my epub CSS files have a rather large right margin (the page number is in the right margin on my reader).

And I know, with the right implementation, that page number can be completely gone, as my 6" reader doesn't show it at all. But I still don't use the epubs I have (I format-shift my books to epub, from there to mobi and from the same sources to PDF), but the PDF files.
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Actually, there are now a lot of eBooks that are more expensive then the paper edition. And if not more expensive, very much close to the paper price. A $7.99 eBook is more expensive then a $7.99 paperback as I can get a discount on the paperback, but chances are no discount on the eBook.
That's a fallacy. If the paperback is priced at $7.99, then it is the same price as an ebook at that price. Now *IF* it has been re-priced to a lower amount...

I agree that it would be nice if Amazon, B&N, Apple and Smashwords had a 'rebate' program similar to Fictionwise's, but I haven't seen that yet. Not that B&N *couldn't* do this if one has a B&N membership card...

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I agree that it would be nice if Amazon, B&N, Apple and Smashwords had a 'rebate' program similar to Fictionwise's, but I haven't seen that yet. Not that B&N *couldn't* do this if one has a B&N membership card...
Supposedly the Agency agreements don't allow for these kinds of programs for agency titles. I suppose they could do it for everyone elses titles but it might cause to much confusion with consumers.
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That's a fallacy. If the paperback is priced at $7.99, then it is the same price as an ebook at that price. Now *IF* it has been re-priced to a lower amount...

I agree that it would be nice if Amazon, B&N, Apple and Smashwords had a 'rebate' program similar to Fictionwise's, but I haven't seen that yet. Not that B&N *couldn't* do this if one has a B&N membership card...

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I have a Borders rewards card. I get disco nuts from Borders via email. I can use these discounts with pBooks. The agency 5's eBooks allow for no discount or sale. So yes, a $7.99 pBook is cheaper then an eBook at $7.99 from any of the agency 5.
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I have a Borders rewards card. I get disco nuts from Borders via email. I can use these discounts with pBooks. The agency 5's eBooks allow for no discount or sale. So yes, a $7.99 pBook is cheaper then an eBook at $7.99 from any of the agency 5.
Then that is the fault of the Big Five publishers, yes? Them and their stupid 'agent' pricing plan. Time to buy up all stocks of pitchforks and torches, yes?



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