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Old 06-21-2015, 03:32 AM   #1
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Kindle Comic Converter can now create KEPUB files

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From version 4.6 thanks to awesome feedback by frozenworks all Kobo profiles output valid KEPUB files.

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Old 06-21-2015, 10:28 AM   #2
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That seems to work well. Well, one I realised that it was using RTL page direction and tapped the left side to turn to the next page.

The only issue I had is the ToC. For a kepub, each file has to be in the ToC. In this case it uses the file name as the ToC entry.

I did find something strange in the code. Each image is wrapped in a div as:

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<div class="epub:type=bodymatter">
As I hadn't seen that, I did a search. What I found suggests you are setting the epub 3 landmarks. In that case, I would have expected this to look like:

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<div epub:type="bodymatter">
But, I can't find a decent example of the use of "epub:type" outside of a nav element, so I'm not sure.
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Old 06-21-2015, 10:36 AM   #3
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So Kobo EPUB3 reader ignore both NAV and NCX files?

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"For ePub 3.0, Kobo platforms will read the ToC from the ToC table in the nav.html file. When a ToC table is not present, the next available table will be used. If the nav.html is not present, it will populate the ToC with the toc.ncx. If the toc.ncx is not present, it will populate the ToC with the spine listing in the OPF."

Hmm ToC should be ok then. I will check it out.

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Old 06-21-2015, 07:47 PM   #4
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I haven't done enough with epub 3, so I am not sure about the nav.html. For kepubs from epub 2, the reader will use the ToC from the toc.ncx. But, it creates a ToC entry for any files in the spine that are not in the toc.ncx. My quick look at your epub 3 kepubs, it seemed to do the same thing.

Also, can you add a straight epub 3 sample? It feels like it is missing especially as the changelog under the list of samples has it as the second point. I expect it will be the same as the kepub samples, but, it would be good for non-Kobo or Kindle users. It might be a good idea to complete the set and add an epub 2 as well.
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EPUB2 is no-go. Kobo reader can't use full screen graphic there.

Fun fact straight EPUB3 will not work too. I have template and generic CSS that work on Kindle and other readers but it fail to render properly in Kobo kepub reader. I had to include separate templates for Kobo output.

Logic of auto adding toc entries when proper toc is included escapes me.
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Old 06-22-2015, 01:30 AM   #6
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EPUB2 is no-go. Kobo reader can't use full screen graphic there.
True, but it can display the book. But, I wasn't thinking of the Kobo for this. I was thinking that your tool claims to generate this and having a sample would allow people using other epub ereaders to get an idea of how it is displayed.
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Fun fact straight EPUB3 will not work too. I have template and generic CSS that work on Kindle and other readers but it fail to render properly in Kobo kepub reader. I had to include separate templates for Kobo output.
Again, I was thinking for of this for other ereaders. But, I was going to compare the epub 3 with the kepub. And I'm more interested in doing this now as I expected a straight epub 3 to work. Maybe not as well as the tweaked version you are producing as a kepub, but it should work. And I think the version of the RMSDK that the current Kobo firmware uses has some support of epub 3. I'm curious to see how that works.
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Logic of auto adding toc entries when proper toc is included escapes me.
It is stated in https://github.com/kobolabs/epub-spe...f-contents-toc. That does make it look like it is only for epub 2, but it seems to be for epub 3. Or at least sideloaded epub 3. Maybe it is different if the epub 3 goes through the Kobo CMS.

I think this is done because the rendering, page calculation and time reading calculations are done at the internal file levels. The internal database has entries for each file in a kepub and stores some of these values against them.
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Old 06-22-2015, 02:11 AM   #7
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Ah. OK. Now I understand what you mean :-) There are reason why I don't provide more generic sample to test on other readers:
  • We don't support other readers officially.
  • KCC by design can't create generic files. All images are processed for specific resolution.

But if you choose "Other" profile and provide screen resolution of Kobo - you will get what I consider clean EPUB 3.0 output. Which is really not clean as it will have slightly bloated CSS/HTML due some hacks and styles used only by Kindle. And AFAIK that file render correctly on e-ink devices other than Kobo and Kindle.

Also entire matter is hindered by fact that I don't have access to any Kobo hardware. My work in this case is based on user feedback.

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Kobo for PC also display file list as TOC completely ignoring NAV and NCX.

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Old 06-22-2015, 04:26 AM   #8
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Wow, exactly what i was looking for.
Thanks!

P.S. It's Kobo Glo, not Kobo Glow (in selector on kcc.iosphe.re)

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Old 06-22-2015, 04:39 AM   #9
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You welcome.

PS. Fixed.
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Old 06-22-2015, 06:15 AM   #10
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Here comes the bug report.
Got Scott Pilgrim from the web (do own a legal paper copy, writing it just in case anybody doesn't tolerate pure pirate stuff).
It has 6 volumes total, 2 of which start with "Scott Pilgrim vs. " string.
After epub conversion (kobo glo profile) i've got 5 files (instead of 6), one of the files was called "ScottPilgrimvs.kepub.epub".
So i guess KCC cuts the title off the first dot it meets in filename, and second "vs." volume was just overwritten because of that.
Except for that - it's solid piece of software, does it's job well.
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Yep. It is bug in file name cleaner - I will fix it in next release.
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Yep. It is bug in file name cleaner - I will fix it in next release.
So for my graphic novels I use to output CBZ and put it in my Kobo folder and it would, now it outputs kepub and can't change that, and when I put it in my kobo folder when I connect the device to the computer and it brings up the DRM message. Can I just use CBZ, or is there a way I can revert to the previous version of KCC?
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You can change that... Enable advanced mode and choose output format using right selector.

I'm more interested why this DRM error appear...
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Well another shoot about TOC issues.

Can somebody test this file? If should have 3 TOC entries: A,B,C
https://mega.co.nz/#!Aw0zwRZT!tgXegX...BocM-ug8x1ep4U

TOC in Kobo for PC still don't work correctly but it work on Kobo for Android.
Kobo breaking the rules declared in its own documentation...
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No, the test file doesn't display 3 TOC entries. Just has each page individually in the Table of Contents.
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