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Old 06-11-2018, 03:20 PM   #1
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I currently use M92 for reading technical/historical papers in PDFs and occasionally old beat up PRS600 for other plain text lite reading. I have an extensive library of different formats in Calibre that I mainly keep in sync on an SD card.

I am looking for a dedicated read in darkness reader with preferably one hand operation that is small and light.

I tried a couple of reading lights that I can use with decent results but I am in need of a one convenient device that can be used in awkward positions to read in bed with minimal glow. I do use blue light filtering glasses often so the color of the glow is not so important as long as the text is crisp and clear.

I will be reading mostly plain text but I have a number of scanned books/documents in PDF format so I guess screen density is important with limited reflow options.

I am not interested in joining any ecosystem for purchasing books so manual upload is a must.

Any recommendations?

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Old 06-11-2018, 08:32 PM   #2
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I don't know about the newer Kobos, but on my Glo even the 1% light setting is blindingly bright in the dark. The Pocketbook Inkpad 3's light is barely noticeable on the lowest setting, so if the Touch HD 2 is similar (likely), it would be a candidate to look at. It has physical buttons in addition to the touch screen, and a card slot. 300 dpi, which is as high as e-ink currently offers. No ecosystem, works well with Calibre. Some details here.
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Old 06-11-2018, 08:41 PM   #3
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I don't know about the newer Kobos, but on my Glo even the 1% light setting is blindingly bright in the dark.
I never had any real issue with the Glo, but it would have been good to have it go a bit dimmer. But, all the newer Kobo devices I have used will go a lot dimmer. And the ones with the ComfortLight Plus that can adjust the colour seem to go even dimmer when you adjust the colour.

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I don't know about the newer Kobos, but on my Glo even the 1% light setting is blindingly bright in the dark.
The original Glo is by far the brightest Kobo. Newer models go to a dimness that is comfortable in pitch dark.
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Old 06-12-2018, 01:27 AM   #5
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If you are talking about a lighting device, and not an e-reader, then I can recommend Nitecore products that can do 1 lumen at the lowest setting. I use them myself.

For example, this is a good little lamp for night-reading that you can carry around in keybundle http://flashlight.nitecore.com/product/tube

And this one is good for everything, as a bicycle light, in the yard, and indoors http://flashlight.nitecore.com/product/mh12gt

For the latter one you have to add a little white filter to disperse the light (otherwise it emits a narrow sharp beam, it's a "thrower" type of flashlight). The former one emits an appropriately dispersed light, it's perfect as it is.

The only additional problem with these lights is to place them solidly, hang them or fix them so they are at a perfect angle.
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Old 06-12-2018, 10:18 AM   #6
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If you are talking about a lighting device, and not an e-reader, then I can recommend Nitecore...
Sorry not interested in another flashlight. Looking for a new reader device.

I like the idea of the Touch HD 2 tho.

How is that infrared touch compare to capacitive. Is it true that there is less screen to see thru resulting in better text appearance?

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I like the idea of the Touch HD 2 tho.

How is that infrared touch compare to capacitive. Is it true that there is less screen to see thru resulting in better text appearance?
Well, the screen on HD (and HD 2) is definitely crisper and clearer than anything else I have seen, but it could just be the 300 ppi though.

But a concrete experiential advantage with infrared touch, compared to capacitive, is that it always reacts as expected. On other screens I get mistaps, but I never did on HD. I think this is likely due to infrared touch.
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Well, the screen on HD (and HD 2) is definitely crisper and clearer than anything else I have seen, but it could just be the 300 ppi though.

But a concrete experiential advantage with infrared touch, compared to capacitive, is that it always reacts as expected. On other screens I get mistaps, but I never did on HD. I think this is likely due to infrared touch.
Whereas my experience is the opposite. On my AuraHD, which is infrared, I constantly have problems with the touch screen not registering my touch, or registering a long press as a swipe, or something similar. I also have the annoyance that when I'm reading in bed, if a piece of the sheet/blanket touches the screen it turns the page (or does something else unwanted). With my capacitive devices, I (almost) never have an issue it not registering a touch, and when I do, it's very rare.

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PDFs? I think you are better off with a tablet than an ereader. Which one you get depends a bit on your budget, where you live and your eyesight. My late sister thought the inexpensive Fire was the cat's meow for reading in bed - she could adjust the light to whatever she wanted. It was heavier than an ereader, but still lighter than a paperback. I've used the Fires for reading pdfs for several years now. Really quite excellent although I now have to go to a larger unit because of my eyesight.
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Whereas my experience is the opposite. On my AuraHD, which is infrared, I constantly have problems with the touch screen not registering my touch, or registering a long press as a swipe, or something similar. I also have the annoyance that when I'm reading in bed, if a piece of the sheet/blanket touches the screen it turns the page (or does something else unwanted). With my capacitive devices, I (almost) never have an issue it not registering a touch, and when I do, it's very rare.

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Your experience is indeed the opposite. Probably the reason is not the infrared then, but Pocketbook must be doing something right and Kobo wrong.

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PDFs? I think you are better off with a tablet than an ereader.
Here's what an ereader can do with pdf https://youtu.be/sXuplTRvsEM?t=35
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Your experience is indeed the opposite. Probably the reason is not the infrared then, but Pocketbook must be doing something right and Kobo wrong.


Here's what an ereader can do with pdf https://youtu.be/sXuplTRvsEM?t=35
Thanks for the link. I was going to say that it makes a difference where you live, but I see Amazon offers Pocketbook Touch Lux 3 on their website, so not a problem. It certainly fulfills the OPs request.
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Thanks for the link. I was going to say that it makes a difference where you live, but I see Amazon offers Pocketbook Touch Lux 3 on their website, so not a problem. It certainly fulfills the OPs request.
Touch Lux 3 has 256 MB of RAM. Touch HD and HD 2 have 512 MB, a significant upgrade that gives an even better pdf experience.

Inkpad 3 has 1 GB of RAM. I have an Inkpad 2 (512 MB of RAM), which I like over the 3 because of the placement of the hardware keys, wider bezels, and a Notes app that collects highlights and annotations from the entire library in one single place. The Notes app is, in my opinion, the single most intelligent solution in the entire software and very sad that Pocketbook dropped it in their current flagship. However, Inkpad 2 has a Pearl screen, probably too outdated for most people's taste.
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How is that infrared touch compare to capacitive. Is it true that there is less screen to see thru resulting in better text appearance?
Yes, that is true. The capacitance layer theoretically degrades the display, though it's probably arguable how noticeable this is and may depend on the individual. I don't really notice it with the InkPad 3 (capacitive). But yes, with an IR system, there is one layer less between the viewer and the text.

Usage-wise, I don't really notice a difference, but I don't take my readers outside in the winter (if you wear gloves, IR would definitely be a major advantage).
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On my AuraHD, which is infrared, I constantly have problems with the touch screen not registering my touch, or registering a long press as a swipe, or something similar.
Most likely you're aware of this, but just in case, could there be enough dust or detritus around the edges that makes it wonky? I once gently pushed a toothpick around the edge, and then used a cloth to finish up cleaning everything, and then the infrared performed better.
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Most likely you're aware of this, but just in case, could there be enough dust or detritus around the edges that makes it wonky? I once gently pushed a toothpick around the edge, and then used a cloth to finish up cleaning everything, and then the infrared performed better.
I've done that a couple of times, but it's worth another try! Thanks for the suggestion!

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