03-10-2021, 09:57 AM | #181 | |
Grand Sorcerer
Posts: 27,552
Karma: 193191846
Join Date: Jan 2010
Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD
|
Quote:
And yet you expect people to respond to your posts without snark. Last edited by DiapDealer; 03-10-2021 at 10:00 AM. |
|
03-10-2021, 10:29 AM | #182 | |
Grand Sorcerer
Posts: 5,659
Karma: 66420972
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Australia
Device: Kobo Libra 2, iPadMini4, iPad4, MBP; support other Kobo/Kindles
|
Quote:
But go ahead and boycott the Seuss rights-holders. I suspect they'll continue to do just fine without you. |
|
Advert | |
|
03-10-2021, 10:34 AM | #183 | ||
Wizard
Posts: 2,827
Karma: 10700629
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Canada
Device: Onyx Nova
|
Quote:
Quote:
Clearly there is a difference between changing the word "black" to "African-American", and changing the word "nail" to "screw". |
||
03-10-2021, 10:42 AM | #184 | |
Wizard
Posts: 2,827
Karma: 10700629
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Canada
Device: Onyx Nova
|
Quote:
In this particular case, I suspect that both were at play, as they were in the Seuss withdrawal. They both feared a consequence, and they personally approved the change. And I would also not call it suppression as you have, I would call it censorship, or to be more exact, self-censorship, which is still censorship. Anyway, it's semantics, but words, as we have seen, are important |
|
03-10-2021, 12:36 PM | #185 | |
Guru
Posts: 608
Karma: 5007204
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Calif
Device: Fire hdx 8.9, Tab S2, Tab S5e, Aura ONE
|
Quote:
I think that using "Black" to refer to people is also catering to racism, just as using "white", yellow or red. Have read that the color coding of the human species was done by a Danish biologist who did the color coding for his convenience. As "white" meant European supremacy; "yellow" is for the Asian barbarians who cannot be considered white as they were not equal to the European whites; same with the "brown" Indians, etc. |
|
Advert | |
|
03-10-2021, 12:40 PM | #186 | |
o saeclum infacetum
Posts: 20,229
Karma: 222235366
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: New England
Device: H2O, Aura One, PW5
|
Quote:
|
|
03-10-2021, 03:58 PM | #187 |
Wizard
Posts: 1,003
Karma: 12012526
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Canada
Device: Sony PRS-650
|
Next someone will blame the Enlightenment.
|
03-10-2021, 05:18 PM | #188 | |
Grand Sorcerer
Posts: 7,036
Karma: 39379388
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: near Philadelphia USA
Device: Kindle Kids Edition, Fire HD 10 (11th generation)
|
Quote:
North Wind: What the Hong Kong Media Doesn't Want You to Know In print Nury Vittachi: The Other Side of the Story: A Secret War in Hong Kong Why he went from a regime critic to apologist, I don't know. It could be they threatened his family. It could be that he is a sincere convert. I could rummage through U.S.S.R. history for similar examples. Can't happen here? That is a question we might disagree on. Last edited by DiapDealer; 03-10-2021 at 05:27 PM. Reason: Accidentally edited instead of quoting. Sorry. |
|
03-10-2021, 08:21 PM | #189 | |
Gentleman and scholar
Posts: 10,994
Karma: 108312789
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Space City, Texas
Device: Clara HD; Nook ST w/Glowlight, (2015) Glowlight Plus, Paperwhite 3
|
Quote:
|
|
03-10-2021, 08:50 PM | #190 | ||
Wizard
Posts: 1,414
Karma: 6513838
Join Date: Mar 2016
Device: More than I need, but not as many as I would like.
|
Quote:
Quote:
|
||
03-10-2021, 09:20 PM | #191 |
Gentleman and scholar
Posts: 10,994
Karma: 108312789
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Space City, Texas
Device: Clara HD; Nook ST w/Glowlight, (2015) Glowlight Plus, Paperwhite 3
|
A little from column A, a little from column B.
Look, I'm sure the Seuss Foundation has noticed stories popping up here and there and reviewed the books on their own and decided six of them are too dated to continue to be published today. My guess would be they would have no problem with the books continuing to be published for adults and I would bet they will be brought back in some form. However, since these are children's books and when something similar happened to Tintin in the Congo it was stuck in the children's section anyway, for now their best course of action is to withdraw those books. That is not the same as: I just don't buy it. It's not 'cancel culture' and people flogging it as such are just trying to make money by stoking outrage. Last edited by ZodWallop; 03-10-2021 at 09:25 PM. |
03-10-2021, 09:22 PM | #192 | |
Gentleman and scholar
Posts: 10,994
Karma: 108312789
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Space City, Texas
Device: Clara HD; Nook ST w/Glowlight, (2015) Glowlight Plus, Paperwhite 3
|
Quote:
Why is that never addressed by you? Anyway, post #191 says what I have to say. |
|
03-10-2021, 10:18 PM | #193 | ||
Wizard
Posts: 1,414
Karma: 6513838
Join Date: Mar 2016
Device: More than I need, but not as many as I would like.
|
Quote:
Quote:
Had there not been that outside pressure/"feedback", would they have undertaken such a review of their catalogue? Seems unlikely. Did they decide to stop publishing every title which has come under criticism? Clearly not. Some of the criticisms of other titles may have been judged to be unfounded. In this regard, apparently some patrons of a library in Toronto thought that Hop on Pop should be banned because they felt that it encouraged violence against fathers. Fortunately, the library had more sense and likely realized that the request for a ban was not serious, but was made to drive home a point. Dr. Seuss book Hop on Pop does not encourage 'violence against fathers,' library says in rejecting ban request https://nationalpost.com/news/toront...ng-ban-request Last edited by Question Mark; 03-10-2021 at 10:32 PM. |
||
03-10-2021, 10:18 PM | #194 |
languorous autodidact ✦
Posts: 4,235
Karma: 44637926
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: smiling with the rising sun
Device: onyx boox poke 2 colour, kindle voyage
|
Honestly I never really cared for Dr. Seuss, even when I was young (of what I remember anyway). I know I read a few of his books like Green Eggs & Ham (and did enjoy having green eggs and ham, and green milk, once when little), The Cat in the Hat, The Grinch (probably my favourite of the bunch) and some others. So I really don't care if the estate decides to pull some of them, or all of them. There's a million other good books children can read, and these'll still be available somewhere used if anyone really wants to read them, and they're not banned or burned by the government. If there's racist imagery then to me it seems like the right call.
|
03-11-2021, 08:55 AM | #195 | |
Grand Sorcerer
Posts: 7,195
Karma: 70314280
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA
Device: iPad Pro, iPad mini, Kobo Aura, Amazon paperwhite, Sony PRS-T2
|
Quote:
I'm a little old for Dr Seuss, so I never was going to buy the books. |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Should children tip their hats to a digital Dr. Seuss? | Alexander Turcic | News | 33 | 09-08-2013 02:24 PM |
Dr Seuss Book Apps on Sale 01~07 Mar | tubemonkey | Deals and Resources (No Self-Promotion or Affiliate Links) | 3 | 03-15-2013 10:09 AM |
Nook Simple Touch Glowlight - technological issue or quality-control issue? | Dr. Drib | Barnes & Noble NOOK | 1 | 12-04-2012 01:32 PM |
The Cat in the Hat - Dr. Seuss $.99 (Android App) [Amazon/Google] | NightBird | Deals and Resources (No Self-Promotion or Affiliate Links) | 0 | 07-25-2012 05:25 AM |
Dr Seuss Kindle cover | Angst | Amazon Kindle | 7 | 03-10-2009 10:05 AM |