10-12-2012, 02:31 AM | #1 |
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Onyx M92 - Long list of bugs
I've recently purchased what is known as M92 in the States and I must say I'm dissapointed by certain aspects:
Conclusion: The M92 is a reasonably good assembly of hardware (good and large screen, reasonably well working Digitizer, although misdesigned, usable buttons) with unusable software. Is there anything one can do against this software? As a Linux programmer I'd gladly like to write my own bits and pieces but I doubt that's possible given the propriatary assembly with possibly propriatary drivers. Thank Last edited by ManDay; 10-12-2012 at 03:42 AM. |
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First off: since you are "Linux programmer", I am going to write my response to your "bug report" in a way you could expect it to come from a bug tracker/mailing list/IRC channel if people there would be confronted with a report of a quality such as yours.
That being said, you don't sound very tech-savvy. I guess there is some value in criticizing a version of the software which is not up to date though. Speaking of which, what version does your firmware have?! It would make sense to distinguish between actual software bugs (or your perception thereof) and lacking features in the hardware design, don't you think? Quote:
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Yet again, maybe you should try updating your device first or have it returned for repairs? Quote:
I know that old versions didn't work too well, but last time I checked the browser worked quite nicely. I can, however, imagine better things than browsing on an e-ink device. Quote:
Also, if it were to show something, it certainly would not use energy for the purpose of the display. Sure, changing what is displayed costs energy, but that part is negligible. Lastly, this solutions is the standard solution in the industry (look at how the Kindle does it). Should there be an option to change this? I think so; but displaying an image in standby mode is reasonable so that the user can quickly tell what state the device is in. So this definitely is not a bug, but a design decision. Quote:
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I'm delighted by your response, mSSN...
First off, since I am a """Linux programmer""", I know the difference between OSS and proprietary, locked software - the Onyx is of the latter kind. So no need to respond to me as if I had filed this bug report on an OSS bug tracker. And if you like you can call it a rant. Since there is actually no bugtracker. Since this is actually not open source. Since my patience with proprietary software, for the service of which I pay, is much shorter compared to my infinite patience with software people create out of good-heartedness. That said, please forgive me if my "bug report" does not comply to the standards of bug reports usually found in the realms of OSS, for the M92 is not an open source device and from the responses I've had from the M92's (i.e. IcarusReader Excel, Dutch brand) customer care, care for cooperation with their customers is the last thing they have. Quote:
The "About" screen claims firmware 1.7 20120207, to my knowledge the most recent firmware officially available for the device. Of course, I may perform another attempt at updating it as soon as I get an SD-Card. Quote:
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When I first received the device, it showed a white-on-black drawing on the screen. This is the drawing it regularly returns to when powering down. Quote:
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I could further support the impression of being ununderstanding of technology by just saying "I'll try to update as you said", but in fact I checked the firmware version before I opened the topic, and to all things considered, it seems to be latest firmware (including the changes described in the "Changelog"). But since I did not actually perform any update, let me close by saying: I'll try to update as you said. Quote:
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I have no understanding of how complete or up-to-date this is. There is a thread about hacking on the M92, but the English community seems very drowsy. The Russian community is a lot more active. |
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10-12-2012, 05:40 AM | #8 |
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ManDay please check this wiki page: M92 software development before digging into the sources.
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10-12-2012, 12:28 PM | #9 | |
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I do not use it (I prefer to have a nice picture on screen), but it might be good for cooking. @Manday Beside that. It is possible comfortably set any times for suspend and off time using free OTFM file manager. It is good that another Linux programmer is eager to develop sw for (more than less) open M92. There is few 3rd party applications, but you could cooperate with guy who wrote completely new firmware for olders Onyxes and port it to M92. |
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10-13-2012, 11:07 AM | #10 |
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About the stylus: You could cut off a normal biro at the writing end and put the stylus in, maybe secure it somehow so it cannot fall out. This way you can choose the way the stylus feels and also have a clip. I tried it and the stylus still works if you do it. In my case, I have a case to store the reader in which also has a little pocket for the stylus, so I do not currently need this.
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10-19-2012, 05:12 AM | #11 |
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I was hoping to use a Stylus from Wacom (isdv4) with it - should that be possible?
(PS: Haven't yet updated firmware due to various reasons, will report back as soon as I did) |
10-19-2012, 07:47 AM | #12 |
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I think it will not work,but you may give it a try.
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11-07-2012, 08:14 AM | #13 |
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FYI: I just purchased an Onyx Boox M92 and it came with a firmware which is even newer than the latest offered on onxy-boox.com. And it appears to have a load of added functionality and improvements. Impressive! I'm currently trying to learn about the new things.
(As a first thing, I've tried out the new auto-crop functions which works like a charm and can be adjusted to one's needs!) |
11-07-2012, 09:56 AM | #14 |
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Good. So, it is your's 2nd M92 in two months, isn't it?
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