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03-01-2019, 09:15 AM | #1 |
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How to organise your library? I use Calibre because Kindle's collections are useless
How do you Kindle users organise your collections of books, browse through what you have bought, group books into categories, remember what you have read and decide what to read next, etc?
I wish I had known it before buying a Kindle and about 200 books on it, but the Kobos integrate very well with Calibre: books can be tagged and classified with Calibre, and Calibre will very easily create Kobo shelves based on the tags, with no jailbreaking required. With Kindles, I find that managing more than 100 books is almost impossible. I have no OCD desire to classify them according to multiple criteria – I just want to remember roughly what I have bought and what I haven’t yet read. The workflow I have come up with basically involves using Calibre to manage the library, and the Kindle to read only; Kindle's collections are too chaotic to be of any real use:
I find Amazon’s Kindle ecosystem sucks at managing libraries because:
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03-01-2019, 10:34 AM | #2 |
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I also use Calibre for managing my library; my Kindles are for reading only. That said, I still tend to keep 1000-2000 books on my Kindles. I'm not big on collections, though, and use searching to find the necessary book on a Kindle.
Calibre does everything I want from a library manager and I wouldn't have much use for any collections/shelves feature on my reading device. It's just not really important for me. |
03-01-2019, 11:12 AM | #3 | |
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03-01-2019, 11:25 AM | #4 |
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Website works fine for me for adding books to collections. Caveat, I think Kindles don't like exceeding around ~990 books per collection. Also, Add to Collections doesn't appear as an option for me on mobile browsers. Works fine on Chrome with Windows 7.
https://www.amazon.com/myk That said, regardless of what ereader one has, I think if one has over a thousand books acquired from different sources, I reckon it's still much faster to check one's Calibre library via smartphone, tablet or PC if a book has already been purchased or not. I only use collections on ereaders for browsing for my next read so I don't have to scroll through hundreds of pages—not to check which books I've already bought and which ones I haven't. Mind, if one only buys from Amazon, then it's less of an issue since Amazon will tell you that you've already purchased a book. As for adding newly purchased books to collections on the Kindle ereader itself, I just sort by Recent. For me, that usually puts newly acquired books at the very top of the list. Page 2 at most. I own both Kobos and jailbroken Kindles so I can manage collections/shelves on both via Calibre. After jailbreak, I don't find Kobos much better than the Kindles for book browsing. Once the book is on the device, the Kindle flags them either as new or with the reading progress so unless you read USB sideloaded books on multiple devices, keeping track if a book has been read or not isn't much of an issue. If I didn't have a jailbroken Kindle, I'd either:
Personally, I rarely have the inclination to connect my Kindle to USB to transfer books/manage collections so I've actually been using #3 quite a bit. I use the Kindle's experimental browser to browse for books on Calibre-PHP server, then just download and read directly (I almost always sort by Recent). |
03-01-2019, 11:28 AM | #5 | |
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03-01-2019, 12:02 PM | #6 | |
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I like your workflow and think it makes sense. You gave me a couple of ideas as well. |
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03-01-2019, 12:08 PM | #7 |
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I also use calibre to organize my books. I only use Kindle collections for unread/read categorization and I only keep a dozen or so unread books on my devices. I am always near wi-fi so adding more books from my Amazon account is easy anytime.
I have seen hints that Amazon will soon allow the ability to filter books by read/unread, automatically marking books as read once they are completed. (I believe that Kobo already has a feature like that.) That may eliminate my need for collections entirely. |
03-01-2019, 12:18 PM | #8 |
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I suppose a related question would be: which would you recommend for a non-tech-savvy person? Someone who
may end up having a collection of 100 to 300 books, not thousands will never use Calibre might, maybe, be willing to access a website to classify books will want to have a rough ideas of what crime novels he has bought, what history books, what biographies, etc. might start to become forgetful e.g. (older relatives) In other words, for a non-tech-savvy person who will do most of the library management on the ereader itself, or at most on the website of the related store, which would be better? Kindle? Kobo? Something else? I know the Kindle is cumbersome but I don’t have a Kobo to compare. |
03-01-2019, 12:22 PM | #9 | |
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Also, jailbreaking gives me KOReader which brings with it a ton of benefits—highly customizable tap zones (tap almost anywhere goes forward, swipe for back), EPUB and CBZ support, Dropbox support, OPDS support, etc. I do almost all my reading on KOReader now. Only thing I prefer the native Kindle reader for is full text search (ebook and library-wide). |
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03-01-2019, 12:25 PM | #10 | |
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Since you specifically mentioned non-tech-savvy, I doubt they'll be doing any DRM removal and format shifting/conversion. As I'm located in the US, I would recommend Amazon for ease of availability (Amazon, Target, Best Buy, etc) and US-based customer support. Not that I know anyone who would buy a dedicated reader. Most just read on their smartphones or tablets. Last edited by ilovejedd; 03-01-2019 at 12:29 PM. |
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03-01-2019, 12:26 PM | #11 |
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Makes sense. Unfortunately not all devices can be jailbroken; my Voyage has too new a firmware. If I were to buy a new Paperwhite, I believe I'd have no way of knowing , before buying it, if the firmware is 'old enough' to allow jailbreak.
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03-01-2019, 12:27 PM | #12 | |
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ETA: seeing the other post now, not even sure I *can* jailbreak. I have a new-ish PW4 with 5.10.3 installed. Last edited by maximus83; 03-01-2019 at 12:30 PM. |
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03-01-2019, 12:32 PM | #13 |
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I have close to 10,000 books on my Oasis, and no collections. I personally have no need for them. The only way I need to organise my books is by author (which the Kindle does fine) and by series (which I use a Calibre metadata plugboard for).
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03-01-2019, 12:38 PM | #14 | |
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As interesting as the Voyage and Oasis 2 are, lower chances of jailbreakability is the primary reason why I haven't bought either. Quick guess, the PW4 32GB LTE models are the least popular and has the highest likelihood of coming from older stock. It probably still ships with older, jailbreakable firmware and I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case even a year or two from now. Granted, quite pricey. Buying from authorized retailers instead of Amazon direct would probably get you older stock, too. Iirc, the PW4 I got from Target Cyber Monday shipped with 5.10.0.1 when even my pre-order from Amazon from weeks earlier came with 5.10.0.2. Last edited by ilovejedd; 03-01-2019 at 12:40 PM. |
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03-01-2019, 12:44 PM | #15 | |
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If I didn't use Calibre, it would be the equivalent of having physical books all over the place on the floor in a dusty loft. Which books by SuchAndSuch have I not yet read? What books on $topic would I recommend? Spend hours in the loft before being able to ansnwer For example, a few weeks ago I wanted to recommend a series of 4 novels to a friend. I remembered the topic but not the name of the author nor the title. Had I not tagged them in Calibre, it would have taken me quite a bit of googling to find the title name. Or I wanted to remember what essays I had read on a certain, very specific topic (I had to recommend something to a friend in this case, too). Again, without tags I'd have struggled, because not all the books had the explicit topic in the title. But, of course, as most things, it's very subjective. Amazon is certainly not struggling because Kobo's shelves are better than its collections! After all, most customers probably don't care as much as I do. Last edited by cd2013; 03-01-2019 at 12:45 PM. Reason: typo |
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